• Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Unfortunately 1,300 still “so far”. People are ready to give him another crack at it.🤮

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      22 days ago

      Standard Democrat fare - they’ll perpetuate the worst of the GOP nonsense, fix some of it, and generally be less terrible. Also see: Gitmo.

      …but as long as the alternative is the GOP, who will make everything far worse far faster (to the point that they’re likely to end the moribund US democracy next term), you need to get out and vote for them up and down the ballot.

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        22 days ago

        The democrats are following the law set up by the republicans underneath gwb.

        Unless you want biden to act like a dictator, there isnt much he can do considering the state of the senate/house.

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          22 days ago

          Yes - the Republicans instituted the bad thing, the Democrats perpetuated it. Obama had the White House , House , and Senate and didn’t close Gitmo as promised.

          I’m in favour of Biden acting like a dictator if it’s to do things like restore the rule of law, stop torture, and right wrongs like separating kids from their families for their entire childhood. The kinds of consequences that make dictatorships bad. What’s the value of proceduralism if it not just fails to correct, but actively delivers those outcomes?

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            22 days ago

            Not to defend them too much and I have to admit that I don’t know much about the details which bills were priorities during the 4 months that Obama has house, senate and Presidency.

            What I did read a while back was that Obama didn’t know how long his supermajority would last and some of the things he wanted he wanted done but couldn’t once he lost the house.

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              22 days ago

              I’d say the shining city on the hill should have made restoring the rule of law a higher priority, but that’s just my opinion.

              It seems the GOP can make things plenty worse in a hell of a hurry, but when it comes to righting the wrongs, it’s all too hard. The Democrat inclination toward civility politics and the status quo over basics like protecting the rule of law and the democracy will be the death of us.

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                21 days ago

                It seems the GOP can make things plenty worse in a hell of a hurry, but when it comes to righting the wrongs, it’s all too hard.

                Funny thing that. It’s almost like being destructive is a lot easier than being constructive.

                That’s weird because it’s certainly a lot easier and quicker to build an entire city than it is to raze one…oh wait, no, the opposite of what I just said there is obviously true.

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                  21 days ago

                  You mean like destroying the GOP’s atrocious policies, right? No? Then you might need to explain yourself, friend.

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    22 days ago

    Government acted with impunity here. Will anyone get held accountable for this?

    Did Trump give them explicit permission to “lose” child or did somebody not do their job?

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      22 days ago

      It was intentional, the goal was to permanently separate children from their families to deter immigrants and asylum seekers.

      This is a LONG article, but extremely detailed with tons of interviews and documents to back it up like emails and memos obtained via FOIA requests: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/

      It’s also paywalled, but once archive.org comes back online you can find it there. I highly recommend reading the whole thing.

      The main takeaway is that the family separation policy was pushed by Trump and his administration incessantly. It took a while to really start because various government officials were reluctant to do it, and kept trying to placate the White House by slow walking the whole thing.

      At one point, government lawyers who process asylum claims realized that the separated children were being shipped away from the local holding facility without any documentation, effectively “losing” them in the system. The lawyers figured this was just a terrible error and began processing asylum claims by the parents faster. If they could get it done within a week or so, the children would still be held in the nearby facility and could be reunited with their parents.

      The white house was furious and directed the holding facility to start “relocating” the children faster, so that they’d be lost in the system before the parents could be processed.

      The cruelty is the point.

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        22 days ago

        So crime happened and looks it was documented properly?

        But perps will not be held accountable?