• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    If GPT4o is still not what you would call AI, then what is? You can have conversations with it, the Turing test is completely irrelevant all of the sudden.

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      4 hours ago

      I could have full conversations with CleverBot a decade ago, but nobody was calling that AI then or even now. People generally recognized it for what it was - a heuristic model chatbot. These LLMs are just overgrown chatbots that still lack the capability of understanding anything it says to you other than how certain words relate to one another.

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      17 hours ago

      Hasn’t the Turing Test been irrelevant for a while now? Even before the new AI boom?

      Artificial intelligence is a moving target. Every time a goal gets reached, they just move the goalposts, because “well, obviously this isn’t real intelligence”.

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        15 hours ago

        No, it was just suddenly completely irrelevant. The answers of the first chat bot that supposedly “beat” it are a complete joke. And yes, I just wrote exactly the same with the goal getting moved, next it has to invent relativity or it’s not intelligent. Absurd.

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      19 hours ago

      I can write a program that just replies “yes” to everything you say and you can have a conversation with that. Is that program AI?

      “AI isn’t really AI and no one ever thought that AI was actually AI so it doesn’t matter if we call it AI” is the funniest level of tech bro cope these days.

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        19 hours ago

        AI has been the name of the field for 70 years at this point, it isn’t something Sam Altman came up with as a marketing wheeze.

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          14 hours ago

          Three dudes in a university somewhere referring to chatbots as AI does not redefine the word, even if they did it 70 years ago. 99.999% of the population has always meant AGI by “AI”. Trying to pretend they were always something different is COPE.