“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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    Rare Bernie L. You absolutely can blame the non voters. They are just as bad as every MAGA voter.

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      Blaming the poor is a cool and fun take. If you willing want to blame those for which voting is actually a burden then you are the problem.

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          The people who are already being subjugated by the system, yeah you are wrong and your take is dangerous and enabling of the system.

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              The poor have a lot less to lose than you do. This isn’t going to change much for them, so it was on people like you to convince them to vote. Promising nothing besides “Not Trump” isn’t going to cut it. Try actually helping them for a change instead of blaming them and then wishing they get fucked, you god damned psychopath.

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          So, just curious,what’s your plan to replace the voters? Are you just removed, or does this lead somewhere? It seems to me that even if the voters are the problem, we need candidates capable of inspiring them to act differently.

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      Bad take. Lots of Bernie voters turned redipped after the DNC shafted Bernie. Blame the oligarchy

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        I blame the Bernie voters, actually. The ones who knew better but didn’t vote out of spite.

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      Yes Draedron, you can. But you’ve already established your genocidal credentials. The rest of us will continue to mop up the mess you, harris/biden, and the dnc made as usual.

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        You are the one who picked the fascist by not voting. You are the one who gave power to someone who will worseb the genocide against Palestinians, Ukrainians and enables the coming genocide against Taiwanese people.

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          🤷 my vote was available, 20 million other votes were available, I showed up, I begged you, harris, biden, the dnc, my reps all year to stop a genocide. I warned you. My state went for harris, as I told you it would. but I fucking warned you what was about to happen.

          I. Told. You. What. Was. About. To. Happen. you, like an ostrich, buried your head in the sand and sang ‘lalala evil.’ Now you’re lashing out as if you didn’t choose this.

          You. Choose. This. The only person you have to blame is yourself and those mentioned above.

          Your willingness to support a genocidal candidate above everything CHOOSE THIS.

          Your willingness to play holier than thou and demand other people vote for a genocidal candidate CHOOSE THIS.

          Your willingness to put corporate well being over american well being well being CHOOSE THIS.

          Its okay to admit you made a mistake, say it after me: ‘I did this. me. but next time I will do better’

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            You chose this by not voting. You think democracy and fascism are the same so you chose not to vote and risk fascism taking over. You caused this. And you will now see that fascism is not preferrable to democracy. Dont come and expect empathy. You are responsible for this by not voting for democracy.

            But I am glad you admitted in your final sentence you made a mistake. Its too late now though. Your country will go down in flames thanks to your decision

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              You keep saying that, but I voted; just not in the manner you wanted because I don’t support genocides under any circumstances.

              again you chose this. you were warned. people told you. no amount of assertions by you will change these facts. when someone tells you what they’re going to do you should believe them.

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                You threw your vote away like every non voter.

                You heard what Trump will do and decided not to vote against him because you dont mind fascism. You chose this and you will suffer the hardest consequenceq. I wont. You chose fascism over democracy for something that will not change no matter the outcome. Something that will get even worse now. With Harris Palestinians would have a chance of survival. You took that chance away from them. Their blood is on your hands. The blood of your fellow countrymen and women who will die due to Trumps policies is on your hands.

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                  Keep telling yourself that. You’ve seen the results of your position. Its a losing position. Your inability to self reflect will lead you to continuously repeating the same mistakes as you’ve done here.

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                    If being against fascism is a losing position in your country it deserves the doom Trumpists and you non voters caused.

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              Keep telling yourself that. Gaza was a component, as was inflation, and middle class woes. Harris lost 25 electoral votes in Michigan and Wisconsin alone.

              Two states with heavy arab demographics. Oops! All so Israel can genocide. 🎉

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                Yes yes, the unmitigated genocidal campaign of indiscriminate bombings targeting all food, water, and medical infrastructure has gone on for over a year. Over one year of imminent famine. 99% of Gaza still alive. Doesn’t that raise any concern in your mind that either your facts or your calculus could be wrong?

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                  Hows that straw doing? still fresh I hope? pliable? I feel like the legs you made were a little thin. You sure it’ll stand?

                  Are you trying to assert Israel isn’t committing genocide? I’m not particularly interested in discussing the semantics of a genocide with a nobody like yourself. suffice to say, yes I’m confident in my calculus that harris’ position on gaza cost her 25 electoral votes.

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              shrug Im handling this just fine. Ive been expecting it for the last two months watching harris campaign. Im mostly picking up the pieces in my local community and helping them get through their grief.

              Your bunch on the other hand should probably go touch some grass. It’ll help I promise.

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                shrug Im handling this just fine.

                Lol you fucking clown, he’s not president yet. Revisit this thought in 6 months to a year.

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                  Don’t worry im well aware of what I’ll need to be doing this entire presidency as a result of the democrats complete and utter boondongle.