• EABOD25@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    This happened 2 months ago and you’re still mad about it? Also on one of your previous accounts, you essentially told someone to die, and you also referred to people as “shitlibs”.

    Just a heads up, mod logs are public

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    3 days ago

    This behaviour of .ml is so known by this point, it’s becoming a low-hanging fruit and almost like it would mean YDI to bring up anti-Hamas or anti-China talking points when one knows this is invariably going to happen. People just shouldn’t do this, unless they’re trying to be banned.

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      This behaviour of .ml is so known by this point, it’s becoming a low-hanging fruit and almost like it would mean YDI to bring up anti-Hamas or anti-China talking points when one knows this is invariably going to happen. People just shouldn’t do this, unless they’re trying to be banned.

      Unfortunately, many still do not know, or do not believe, that .ml mods and admins behave in such a way.

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      3 days ago

      “mandatory ML post”ing from months ago just makes this community a place to content farm and not actually put forward novel discussion i fear

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      3 days ago

      OP has a 3 month account, so if this event occurred 2 months ago then they would not have known.

      You could put a note into the sidebar asking not to post certain topics that are already extremely well known?

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      The absolute irony of saying that everyone knows about some evil so therefore it’s ok.

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      The fact they both sided this, and feel very strongly about people reacting to it, months later… raises questions about motive and belief.

      I’m not here to judge or criticize, that much. But it was very uncomfortable for me to read that and see some comments concerning it.

      Too much drama here

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      How the fuck is this genocide apologism.

      The “IGF” isnt a typo, i called them israel genocide forces.

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        It’s a sensitive subject and saying “hamas is just as bad” is essentially a dog whistle. It’s a main talking point of the pro-genocide goofballs and, even though it wasn’t your intention, being a mouthpiece is still ban worthy.

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        You’re both sidesing a geonicide even when it’s still actively in progress. Even recognizing it as such.

        You don’t know the political circumstances that lead them to such desperate measures (the Abraham accords isolating Palestinians and making their genocide more inevitable as this is obviously the goal of Israel.)

        Or, you can believe this is some irrational hatred that exists due to some genetic / deep cultural root… A belief that would be deeply dehumanizing and would justify the Israeli governments actions.

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        Your the kind of person who would of both sideded the French resistance and the Warsaw ghetto uprisings. Think about that. Reaaaaaally think about that. Consider that your position in a different time would be defending Nazis.

      • EABOD25@lemm.ee
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        I didn’t read the context of the commenter, nor am i trying to find bias in the argument. I was bored and surfing through all my shit on Lemmy.

        But many people have a hard time identifying ideas that people have “locked” in as whatever mechanic that the acronym is known for (Not necessarily the acronym itself. Keep reading) It’s not going to change. I understand and respect how you criticize, but the most you’re going to do with someone is anger them, and not “in a thought out defensive” way, but in a “They had to do a CTRL+ALT+DEL” to understand what you were getting at. I respect your right to argue, but I’d like to recommend that you use like-minded phrasing and mentality that the rest of your known population uses (meaning human social interactions in this regard. Not interent social interactions). And I’m not saying this to offend anyone at all, but examples like:

        “The ‘Israeli Defense Force!?’ I prefer to call them the ‘Israeli Genocide Force!’” You’re acknowledging their belief and feelings disrespectfully, but you’re also expressing your beliefs and feelings in a respectful way. No one should have to feel bad, nor should anyone push the other to feel bad for their beliefs.

        We’re now on a planet with 8 billion people. The fuck is treating people like shit for believing something we don’t truly believe going to impact?

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    Palestinians including Hamas have every right to use any means necessary to dislodge the occupation

    You should NOT be getting bans for stating a bad opinion though, we should be allowed to slip to correct the narrative!

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    Both sides would genocide the other in a heartbeat if given half a chance - it’s just that one side currently has the means to and is actively doing so.

    That said, lemmy.ml is well known for its authoritarian and entirely non-transparent moderation style, which is not communicated to new users well in the slightest and generally they find out after having been banned. Well, now you know.

    Read more at https://feddit.nl/post/16246531, and there’s an entire community at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works dedicated to exactly this topic:-)

    The problem is that right or wrong, the admins of Lemmy.ml are the developers of the Lemmy codebase, so the issue is not so much that Alt-Left tankies have taken over a centrist forum space so much as the latter has decided to move in encroaching upon the space literally designed for the former. And there are very few to no open source alternatives, though PieFed is making great strides and Sublinks was at one time too (and hopefully will again).

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      Emancipitory movements have not had a backlash once given freedom the way you suggest throughout history. Take the South African apartheid or US slavery as examples. Hell, you’re more likely to get an Israeli KKK than a genocide attempt against Israelis.

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      I just wish they were more explicit. I don’t care if you have taboo subjects or banned opinions, just let me know so I can avoid them.

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        This is precisely the issue. I mean it’s probably not great that they choose to be tankies in the first place, but that’s on them to decide how to live, and in the meantime at least let the rest of us know what’s up?

        However, like the Alt-Right people who showed up to the USA capital on January 6th to “defend the constitution” (despite admitting to never having read it), there are certain segments of society whose walk does not match the talk, i.e. they replace facts with “alternative facts”.

        So rather than you having to find a way to block them, they have already blocked you. Which puts you ahead!