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Wimdows 11 broke my laptop’s built in screen support, so it’s long overdue for a Linux upgrade. I just can’t decide which-- I like what Steam did with Arch, but I tried Manjaro and it was kind of ok until I borked it messing around as one does. Once I can decide a distro though, fuck Windows.
Imagine not having windows 10 support until 2027
-This post made by LTSC Gang
the nice thing is that its “free”. ;)
… Go on…
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information
Windows 10 21H2 LTSC recieves support until 2027 December.
Version Servicing option Availability date Latest revision date Latest build Mainstream support end date Extended support end date 2021 (21H2) Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) 2021-11-16 2024-10-08 19044.5011 2027-01-12 2032-01-13 (IoT Enterprise only) That’s if you aren’t forcefully upgraded to windows 12
The nice thing about LTSC is that you aren’t ever forced into anything. It only receives security updates. No new features.
I upgraded from Windows XP to Vista after the 2nd servicepack fixed most of the shit. By that point it was a tolerable OS.
I am currently hoping for a major service pack next year to fix all the stupid shit they did in Windows 11.
You know kind of like when they fucked up windows 8, attempted a quick fix in 8.1 and finally fixed it in win10.
Of course they are at 4 major updates with win11 and it’s still shit so the hope is very thin.
I can understand if you would want to delay on a personal machine. That’s your call. However, I am of the opinion that you should not gamble the business on it. You should not have any EOL devices in use, period. (Unless it is properly airgapped)
You should not have any EOL devices in use, period.
every business still running custom software on XP machines, press X to doubt.
What do you mean? We just migrated that software to a Windows XP VM running on Windows 7! That was just 15 years ago, it’ll be good for another 15 for sure.
You don’t connect those to the outside world
I have been off windows at home for almost 10 years now, I’m really dreading the day when our office computers have to be “upgraded” from 10.
Just don’t wait till last minute. If you need to set a bunch of group policies go for it but you can’t safely stay on Windows 10
Not my farm, not my pig. Gonna be attempting to steer my project requirements over towards the Linux side.
Just keep in mind the business needs come before your own beliefs and opinions. Like it or not chances are your business does not want to leave Windows.
Nah, we’re already mixed. Benefits of being in tech.
Installed Linux last month so I think I’m safe
At work or at home?
Both
gigachad
https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links
no u runs
Ah yes, pirated software. What could go wrong. It is literally the OS itself.
I also don’t support running windows 10 instead of Linux, but massgrave is very reputable and I’m pretty sure you can hash the ISO to be certain it’s the same as an official windows LTSC release
If you have the official release why are you downloading it from a third party website. At best you are breaking Microsoft TOS which makes your company liable.
No-one directly suggested this was intended for a company deployment. If people want to break TOS in the privacy of their own homes then that’s up to them.
Edit: I’m dumb, didn’t see this was c/sysadmin
Only 11??
Then I’m fine; I’m running 2000.
Well my organization uses Windows 11 with exchange 2008.
Just kidding but I’ve heard of dumber things.
I once had a client who didn’t want to buy new Office licenses for their brand-new Server 2008 terminal server, so had us install an old copy of Office 97 they had lying around. Surprisingly, it worked.
What will happen afterward? My cpu isn’t supported.
If you really want to stick with Windows there are methods to bypass the CPU/TPM requirements of Windows 11.
You don’t get security updates.
You can get something new, install Linux, or you can also just choose to not care.
I recommend against that last one heavily
What would reasonably happen if you just don’t?
Realistically? Nothing. So many things have to go wrong for you to get a virus or some other form of malware. Your web browser and other software will continue getting updates for at least a little bit after the OS is EOL. Windows 7-8.1 has only just started losing software support in the last 1-2 years.
First your OS needs a vulnerability, then the software you’re running needs to have a vulnerability, then you need to run said software, then you need to run said software and do whatever it is that can be exploited (or just run some infected software). Every once in a while you’ll run into exploits that need no interaction at all, and that’s where you can really get screwed. Windows had one the other day with ipv6, but that requires your firewall to be set to allow all ipv6 connections in which unfortunately a lot of them do. But even then someone has to have tried reaching you out of the 72 kajillion ipv6 addresses out there.
That said unsupported devices are also a risk to supported devices. Say there’s an exploit like the ipv6 one and device A gets infected. That malware could then use other tricks to affect supported devices that haven’t been patched yet, or there isn’t a patch for it.
I use a ton of unsupported devices, but only intermittently, and not for anything important. The likely hood that I’m getting a virus on Mac OS 9 is so incredibly small. Plus I’m not checking my bank account on that thing. I would not do anything at all important on an unsupported machine, and if it HAS to run I’d quarantine it in it’s own vlan so it can’t affect the important things.
I’m using Linux now for a long time as my daily driver and for all the important stuff.
Games though I still end up using windows 10. My cpu doesnt support 11 and there’s all that crap of copilot recall and whatnot that I’m not interested at all to have on my pc.
Hopefully playing the occasional game won’t be a massive issue because I’ll have to go windows 10 with no security updates then.
Same boat. Linux as DD and w10 for games. Without respect to windows fuck w11. I’m not interested in their macOS-like system.
Gaming under Linux is getting better and better. With all the work Valve has put into Proton, the list of games which don’t run has been shrinking.