The hackers known as anonymous all went their separate ways long ago, leaving 4chans anonymous to be little more than a series of social media accounts releasing videos periodically. You say “they released a statement yesterday”… Er… That’s all they do. They haven’t had any power and members with skill sets since 2008 or so.
…and antifa do exist. Most anarchist are, or are willing to call themselves antifa. A huge number of people used black block (blocking out), and mutual aid to manage, organize, and run the Black Lives Matters riots, and the Portland Corrections protests.
So pretty much the opposite of what you said: Anonymous doesn’t really exist beyond constantly releasing statements, and antifa does exist and will most likely take up organizational roles if any long term street protests erupt.
There’s no organization called “Antifa,” though. It’s just a concept. There’s organizations calling themselves “Black Lives Matter” but most of them are (or were) just trying to (a) organize or (b) get donations and do nothing. Both are just ideas meant to unite disparate groups.
It’s like saying there was an official organization called La Résistance in France during WWII. It’s distributed, small, independent groups with similar ideologies that got a name in retrospect. There’s no central organization.
You got things backwards.
The hackers known as anonymous all went their separate ways long ago, leaving 4chans anonymous to be little more than a series of social media accounts releasing videos periodically. You say “they released a statement yesterday”… Er… That’s all they do. They haven’t had any power and members with skill sets since 2008 or so.
…and antifa do exist. Most anarchist are, or are willing to call themselves antifa. A huge number of people used black block (blocking out), and mutual aid to manage, organize, and run the Black Lives Matters riots, and the Portland Corrections protests.
Behind the Bastards had a whole series detailing it, including all the local chapters and groups that cropped up or started in that period.
So pretty much the opposite of what you said: Anonymous doesn’t really exist beyond constantly releasing statements, and antifa does exist and will most likely take up organizational roles if any long term street protests erupt.
There’s no organization called “Antifa,” though. It’s just a concept. There’s organizations calling themselves “Black Lives Matter” but most of them are (or were) just trying to (a) organize or (b) get donations and do nothing. Both are just ideas meant to unite disparate groups.
It’s like saying there was an official organization called La Résistance in France during WWII. It’s distributed, small, independent groups with similar ideologies that got a name in retrospect. There’s no central organization.