A lot of transphobic people say things like “Trans people shouldn’t undergo surgeries and hormones to fix what they’re going through!” and what not, but I’ve come to a realization. They’re not saying this out of a genuine desire to help trans people, and I’ve used this “four point method” with every transphobe who says this to catch them using “caring about the well-being of people” as a bad faith op to disguise their pushes for just hating trans people.
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On what basis can you assert that gender dysphoria SHOULD NOT be treated by medical transition?
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By extension, do you know HOW to execute said treatment from a medical professional perspective?
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If no to number 2, circle back to number 1 and question your basis again.
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If yes to number 2, why are you harassing people online about your solutions instead of proposing it to medical communities (which would be infinitely more useful)?
Most transphobes I hit with this are not even able to get past the first question in any rhetorically coherent manner, if at all.
Of course, you act accordingly to how each transphobe answers, but at that point, it’s easy because transphobia isn’t rational. It’s entirely based on emotions and fears.
I emphasize that you’re supposed to use logic to come to a conclusion; not the other way around.
Transphobes just so happen to have already preemptively made a conclusion on trans people on the basis of emotions, but they realize that said conclusion won’t hold up in a genuine case of rhetoric (because of how emotionally charged it is), so they embarrassingly try to attach a logical explanation for their bigotry after the fact of them concluding that being trans is bad, so watch them grasp at straws and argue from incredulity as you ask them these four questions.
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“On the basis that God created man and woman, and man shouldn’t undo what God did.” That’s the response - in essence - that you’ll get from most people that assert that a god is real. The more true answer is probably that they’re deeply uncomfortable with the idea of a person that presents as one gender, but isn’t ‘really’ that gender, and they believe that their psychological comfort trumps anyone else’s psychological distress.
Them when Siamese twins get separated (they’re undoing what God did):
It’s funny how “we shouldn’t undo what God did” only applies to women, LGBT people, disabled people, etc. God does things to old men, too, and a lot of money gets spent on undoing those!
Immediately read “ED” to me, but I hope I’m not weird for assuming that. Hehe.
Well I wasn’t going to say it.
But now you mention it, apparently viagra causes more deaths than mifepristone, yet only one of those has old men arguing that it isn’t safe and the FDA approval should be revoked…
So, what, do these bigots think trans and intersex people were created by the devil?
Please don’t give them ideas.
My guess–and it’s just a guess–is that they think that people can be persuaded into being gay, or trans, or whatever, through the influence of satan. I don’t know how they rationalize things like intersex conditions, since obvs. that’s a genetic/chromosomal thing, and indicates that god fucked up somewhere.
I honestly think that a ton of it boils down to, “I don’t like this, therefore it must be bad and immoral in some way”.
God also created infertile husbands with lazy sperm and tiny urethrae, but that doesn’t stop christians from turkey basting their way into six kids. God also created women with facial and arm pit hair, but that doesn’t stop christian women from getting laser hair removal or their husbands from being conditioned to be grossed out by it.
And on and on and on, not even getting into like, removing cancerous testicles and going on HRT, removing a whole ass uterus and going on HRT… Just talking cosmetic shit here.
Gender affirming care for cis people is and always will be a much bigger industry than it is for trans people. This has nothing to do with logic. Threads and discussions like this are great, but they will only ever be heard and understood by us, not them (this is a grand sweeping generalization, some people can obviously be deradicalized).
Edit: obviously the lazy sperm and tiny urethra thing isn’t cosmetic, I’m dumb, but I don’t feel like rewriting 🤷 you get it
If they are wearing glasses, God made them nearsighted, so why are they trying to undo what God did? “But nearsightedness is a medical condition” yeah and so is dysphoria
Yes this feels like the real reason but they don’t always have the self-awareness to understand the basis for their opinions and have never had the need to take that deep-dive into questioning why they hold the beliefs they do.