The details of the conversations between the two leaders, and subsequent discussions among top U.S. and Canadian officials, have not been previously fully reported, and were shared with The New York Times on condition of anonymity by four people with firsthand knowledge of their content. They did not want to be publicly identified discussing a sensitive topic.
On those calls, President Trump laid out a long list of grievances he had with the trade relationship between the two countries, including Canada’s protected dairy sector, the difficulty American banks face in doing business in Canada and Canadian consumption taxes that Mr. Trump deems unfair because they make American goods more expensive.
He also brought up something much more fundamental.
He told Mr. Trudeau that he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary. He offered no further explanation.
Thanks for constantly providing cover for Trump NYT!
Get fucked with your passive language. It isn’t seen as deadly serious, they’re threats against our fucking sovereignty.
NYT has been gargling orange balls for some time now. They were thanked for their service by getting kicked out of the white house lmfao
Even before the orange balls they gargled W’s “yellow cake” balls.
NYT has an extremely bad habit for just accepting press releases as fact and it’s extremely lazy.
The NYT is a right wing rag. Might as well pour sewage into your eyes, same effect as reading it.
What’s the over/under on Canada developing a nuclear deterrent?
It would be interesting to see how that would poll amongst Canadians.
If the threat of annexation is as serious as we are being led to believe (and I think it is), what realistic options do we have in terms of defending our sovereignty? Actuellement, all that stands in the way of Canada’s forced accension to statehood or, more likely; territorial vasalisation by an imperialist USA, is the short stroll to Ottawa.
Obviously, developing nuclear weapons while signatory to non-proliferation treaties is a can of worms that I’d hate to see opened, and the mere acknowledgement and/or open development of such weapons could invite serious economic or even a military response.
Is it even possible to develop a nuclear deterrent in secret? Does Canada have the savoir-faire? The technology, the materials, the delivery systems? Do we beg France and the UK to officially declare that they would respond to any armed aggression against Canada?
Wtf do we do? What timeline is this?
Sell our minerals to China in exchange for security guarantees? Fold and allow ourselves to be absorbed into the US?
I can’t believe this is where we are. What an anxious time to be a Canadian.
It is deadly serious. Anyone who “doesn’t care” or “doesn’t pay attention to politics” is going to find out the hard way. We must shift away from the US in every respect as soon and as thoroughly as possible. Launch a capital campaign of building out east-west, highspeed rail across OUR country (not through theirs and I know that will be pricy but we have no choice, imagine the jobs a huge project like that would create). Reduce and remove interprovincial trade barriers, enable Canadians to be able to work anywhere in Canada (like the EU but just in our country), we have to build up our military - no question, we are being threatened with invasion, this has to happen yesterday, solidify our trade partnerships with anyone but the US, we need east-west pipelines too.
Really tempted to say things that will get me put on various lists now.
I long for the day when the American empire is forgotten by the history books.
Likely sooner than you think.
How Trump’s ‘51st State’ Canada Talk Came to Be Seen as Deadly Serious
Here’s how: he keeps threatening things, people say it’s a joke, then he does them and people act surprised. That’s it in its entirety. Anyone who doesn’t take his threats as threats by now is an utter moron.
There’s going to be a lot of pissed off domestic terrorists if he menage to make Canada the 51st state.
As godawful as everything is, I still find it very hard to believe that any more than 10% of the US military would follow orders to actually attack Canada. I really hope I’m not just naive.
Reposting my comment here.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/14701904
The propaganda to encourage USians to see us as the enemy has already begun in full force. Don’t expect them to grow spines anytime soon.
I hope you’re not too, but I believe you probably are. All these ridiculous orders they’re giving? People are carrying them out without hesitation all across the US. They dumped billions of gallons of reservoir water from California for no reason. They keep letting DOGE into their spaces and just letting them do whatever they want. Nobody in the US has the spine to stand up to authority and I will not risk having any faith that they’ll suddenly remember it when people trained to follow orders and shoot are told to follow orders and shoot.
Unfortunately, militaries are built around getting people to follow orders regardless of how they feel about them.
Many of the Russian soldiers invading Ukraine had Ukrainian family members.
The US military is not going to save Canada from the US military. The US would likely not even send troops until they’d already flattened our main cities with hellfire missiles. We would poison pill many of our resources though. It would be FLQ 2 electric boogaloo.
They would never disobey their “commander in chief” no matter how demented.
A US invasion of Canada would likely lead to either the secession of the blue wall states or nothing, depending on how the political opposition acts. And the political opposition is the Dems, so I wouldn’t get my hopes up unless things get really bad in the US first.
