• Baaahb@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago
    1. no. Microg is baked in to try and get around the portions of google bullshit thats baked in.
    2. yes, I have play services running because I cannot not have android auto.

    Not in /e/os far as i can see. Maybe in aosp somehow? Frankly, I am not exactly a fan of many of the decisions Murena made. They’re motherfuckers about letting me do the things I actually want in the system, for example: just update my apps, dont notify me. I do not care unless you broke or can’t update. But no, I have to dismiss every successful app update.

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        2 days ago

        Your frustration is understood, but I feer its misplaced. The way you phrased your response suggests you are disappointed that /e/os doesnt behave like you want, when you should actually be frustrated with google for designinjng android that way.

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            21 hours ago

            The choice is google or microg. If you are cool doing Goole things, pick any other phone. If you have a different alternative that actually give full android functionality, including things like the google search built into the default android launcher, lemme know.

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              21 hours ago

              I don’t need any of that. All I need isa privacy-focussed ROM which allows me the ability to install MicroG in a different workspace without bundling it in the base image. I think I’m being misunderstood

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                8 hours ago

                Possibly, maybe probably. If you dont want to degoogle, why use /e/os? Thats basically the explicit purpose. /e/is fills the same need as any degoogled ROM but is prepackaged on fairphone devices, no need to buy a pixel in order to use graphene. If you just want android, and the ability to use microg when you want and not when you dont, just use a normal android device.

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                  Unfortunately, if I’m to use it as my daily driver I will need to use some non-FOSS apps. Mainly the 2FA apps like the ones from MS, Okta, Cisco etc. And Google maps because OSM didn’t work for me. And some chat apps because family. Rather than having MicroG in the base system for just this handful of Big-Tech produced apps, I wanted to contain all of them in a workspace. I don’t actually care about running eOS specifically, it’s just that running GrapheneOS means buying an expensive Pixel device. I want a privacy-foscussed ROM on which I can do this

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                    6 hours ago

                    Right, I think this is where we are misommunicating.

                    I use my fairphone as my daily. I also have to use OKTA, and stuff. And I dont use microg for them cause they don’t talk to google. I suppose technically the apps dont use microg, just like they dont use google.

                    The problem you are going to run into though is that google has baked itself into android that you need something to trick android into thinking its operable.

                    In stock android, you COULD have a workspace that only uses microg, but considering you otherwise MUST have play services… Why?

                    Alternatively, you can use microg to handle all your google bullshit to sign yourself in locally and actually use the services that require google without actually signing in to google.

                    Frankly, it sounds more like you want an Ubuntu/Linux (not android Linux) phone or something, but I’m not able to advise on that.