Where are the nationwide protests? The national strikes against the destruction of what is left of U.S. democracy? As for the eerie complacency of the Democrats, it is hardly surprising why there is such a huge loss of trust in the leadership of the Democratic Party.
There are nationwide protests, there is one this weekend…?
The largest worldwide protests in history (at the time) happened on February 15th, 2003, to try to prevent the War in Iraq from happening.
The war happened anyway. Take that for what it’s worth.
(We even have JD Vance saying Europe didn’t do enough to stop the war, as if the giant protests weren’t enough)
Stop protesting and start building parallel systems we can rely on when we all need to General Strike, which is coming quite quickly. We will need systems to feed, water, clothe, house, and in general care for one another during a nationwide general strike. While people aren’t wrong that being armed will probably be a necessary part of that, in the USA, that’s the only part people seem to focus on, forgetting that you cannot eat bullets.
The protesting is what makes people realize and become confident that radical change is needed you fool.
DO NOT STOP PROTESTING
Protest AND do the things you are saying.
Yeah, another point is that a lot of times, building parallel systems like this looks like nothing is going on. Like I have my garden and am always generally prepared and handy anyway so no one looking at me is going to think anything is changing much.
I guess purchases show a different kind of story, but no one is really looking at that either.
Edit: At least parallel systems on a smaller scale, I guess.
Everything starts small, my friend. A lot of leaders don’t become leaders because they want to be, but because they were already putting in the work. You may find yourself in such a position someday, out of sheer necessity and due to the fact that you were laying the groundwork for future efforts. Don’t sell your efforts short, small things add up.
Oh yeah lol I’m not knocking myself, more just pointing out the holes in the article that was linked.
As you, and others have said, protesting is all well and good, but this is more of a long haul type of thing, so it looks a little different.
Edit: Also, thanks for the kind words, stranger.
In that case one thing you can do is spread the word so other people do the same as you.
On a weekend when we’re not disrupting anything. The defacto complaint is, “I can’t take time off work.” Sorry for the inconvenience. Then the next most common excuse is, “Nobody shows up during weekday protests.” Well, shit. Sorry for your democracy. See you next time we put up clever signs on a Saturday.
We need to organize.
We need to organize.
We need to organize.
Organization is hard. Mobilization is easy.
Kwame Ture convinced King to include Vietnam in his stance against the government when most people said that it would be a mistake. Ture marched with King. He helped organize the Million and More March on DC. He was an authority on protest and civil disobedience… but I think it’s time to be uncivil.
https://www.itsinscope.com/research-internal/2020/10/31/kwame-ture-organisation-vs-mobilisation
Edit: Downvoting because this upsets you? Good. You’re part of the problem. WE NEED TO FIGHT. You can stay home if you’re clutching your pearls.
“Do it my way or it’s not good enough.”
Nah, dude. Do it half-assed and it’s not good enough. You can do whatever you want, but if you want change, anything less will be defeated.
You can’t protest from the comfort of your living room.
What tips, in your experience, can you give everyone in achieving those relentless weekday protests you’ve been doing? Any mutual aid orgs you can point people to in order to pay bills and take care of children and not lose their job and health insurance? Or for the seniors that need safe transportation? We’re all ears. Seems like mass weekend protests should be pretty doable for most folks unless you’ve got some other trick we can all use.
Gatekeeping resistance will surely work out for the best.
Okay, buddy. As you wish. You’ll surely defeat the fascists with that go get 'em attitude.
Here’s the thing: nothing is going to effect change at this point short of civil war, and that doesn’t “just happen all of a sudden.” There’s going to have to be a period of civil unrest ahead of that, where some people - maybe you - are going to do legally questionable things. Setting fire to Teslas is already happening.
For civil unrest to progress to actual change, the few people who start it are going to have to get away with it. In order to do that, those people are going to need lower level support from other people, like looking the other way, not talking to
copsbastards, providing places to hide, providing materials. Eventually, those lower level things are going to have to develop into supply chain logistics, producing rations, medical supplies, 3dp weapons, all sorts of things I’m not even thinking of.But someone else might think of important and necessary things, and we want them to participate when they do. Being a dick about how other people “aren’t doing it the right way” (according to you) today will have a quieting effect on their desperately needed participation.
The more people who are pulling in generally the same direction, the better off we’ll all be, whether a particular individual is pulling a little or a lot or exactly the way you think they should.
So yeah, any way someone wants to pull in the direction of defeating fascism is welcome. Because it’s going to take a lot of people, a long time, and bloodshed.
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I think the worry here is that the protests are only attracting tens of thousands in each venue, and a few million at most nation-wide. These numbers should be higher. 75 million people voted for Harris. Another 2 million voted for third parties. And 90+ million stayed home. Big cities should have hundreds of thousands or even millions in the street, and imagine what would happen if a cool 100m turned out nation-wide tomorrow.
The worry is that we won’t get even 10% of those numbers, and a nation of 330m will be led to Fascism by 77.5m people actively supporting it and another 90m just whistling past the grave.
Protests help with the world view, but it won’t make a difference with this administration. The thing that could work is a nationwide work stoppage. But that is a lot harder to pull off.
We still need more tRump voters to see what his actions are doing to them. That’s the only way they’ll get it. When it affects them.
They might not even get it when it affects them. As long as the leopards eat their enemies faces, they’re OK with having the leopards eat their faces as well. Hate is a powerful motivator, unfortunately.
They can also just deny that their own faces are being eaten at all. They still totally have a pension and great benefits. They only lost two teeth from deflouridated water! The value of their investment portfolio went up from $200k all the way to $50k! The mortgage company is just making a mistake by foreclosing on my house, don’t worry, Trump will give it back to me soon!
Denial is how they’ll live the rest of their entire, miserable lives.
I mean, there have been some of the largest protests in American history. There’s really no reason for the administration to care though. Public approval doesn’t get them anything. If a third of the country protested tomorrow they would just dispute the numbers and carry on.
If your goal is to create a white Christian ethnostate and never give up power, people you already don’t care about asking you not to isn’t going to stop you.
We need more people taking more action, but protesting is just how you communicate that there are numbers to make it safe to resist. The protests themselves won’t do anything.
An important and oft overlooked point about protest, messaging about the power and safety of numbers.
This!!! Nobody of any actual note on the left is pretending protests are the solution or the end goal right now, on the contrary I think people ALL across the political spectrum are standing up and asking the people around them whether this is existential moment and noticing who can meet their gaze and not cower in centrism and the status quo.
This is the political function of these protests.
So what’s the next step? How many people do you think think there needs to be a next step? How many are willing to strike for this? Do you see the problem now? The fascists are running at full speed towards their finishing line and the American people are still dawdling at the starting line.
They are protesting the byproducts of a corrupt system, not the system itself, which is what they should be protesting.