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    This obsession about race is something I will never understand about anglosphere culture.

    Britain, Canada and the United States have really gone off the rail.

    In French culture, it is considered completely obscene to ask people about their race. In fact, that’s illegal. Employers and universities can be criminally prosecuted if they start gathering data about skin color. The only question universities ask you is the profession of your parents.

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        What the fuck does your parents profession have to with with anything?

        Everything? This data allows you to see if children of sales assistants, restaurant workers, janitors, are underrepresented. It allows you to measure social mobility and meritocracy.

        All French universities gather anonymous data about the professions of your parents. That way, it can be studied by social scientists:

        https://www.ipp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/democratisation-grandes-ecoles-depuis-milieu-annees-2000-ipp-janvier-2021.pdf

        If kids of low-income people don’t have the same chances to study at leading university, it means the education system needs to improve meritocracy. Otherwise, you end up living in a caste society.

        Anglosphere countries seem to care primarly about race.

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          This data allows you to see if children of sales assistants, restaurant workers, janitors, are underrepresented. It allows you to measure social mobility and meritocracy.

          But can’t the same thing be said about melanin levels? “There is no data suggesting there is a problem” is a door bad actors hide behind all of the time.

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          Dude, that’s so fucking weird. Neither of my parents ever went to college and I did, but I don’t obsess over it. “Everything” is a terrible answer.

          Outside of university admissions, what’s the purpose of this? “Underrepresented” how? Do you really think society is a meritocracy?

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          Anglosphere countries seem to care primarly about race.

          No, it’s pretty much in everyone’s mind. Just because it doesn’t present the same way everywhere doesn’t mean it isn’t there.

          The arrogance of statements you make…

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          No, what my parents do has nothing to do with what I do, or what I am capable of.

          Edit: the only thing here that makes sense is the economic help part, but you don’t need their families profession to correct for that.

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            No, what my parents do has nothing to do with what I do, or what I am capable of.

            That’s not actually statistically true, though. Like, the biggest predictor of your life’s financial outcome is the postal code you grew up with.