US president admits to concern Russian counterpart does not want to ‘stop the war’ and ponders new approach to Moscow

Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy have sat down for a face-to-face talk in the opulent halls of a Vatican basilica to discuss a possible ceasefire, after which the US president accused his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, of not wanting to “stop the war”.

The White House described Trump’s meeting with the Ukrainian leader before Pope Francis’s funeral as “very productive”, while Zelenskyy said on X that the talk with the US president was symbolic and had the “potential to become historic, if we achieve joint results”.

It was the first time that Zelenskyy and Trump had met face to face after a frosty February encounter in the White House where Trump and the US vice-president, JD Vance, berated the Ukrainian leader and accused him of ingratitude for US aid.

  • nohaybanda [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    163·
    2 days ago

    I’m guessing they’re fruitlessly trying to use the Socratic method to make you critically examine the wild claims you’re making. Even if a victory for Ukraine were still possible as you say, this in no way means Putin is all but defeated and just hiding it. The Russians are not “banking” on Trump pulling back from Ukraine or the EU being unable to meaningfully contribute - both of those things were fully expected a year ago and we can clearly observe right now. Waging a bloody war of attrition until a more favorable geopolitical situation arrives is precisely the stratagem at play here, and is certainly not what losing looks like.

    Unless you’re willing to say right here that Russia is an aggressor nation and that the nation, along with its authoritarian leader Putin, is completely in the wrong,

    Y’all get that this isn’t a cartoon, right? Finding out who the “bad guy” is doesn’t mean they’re going to lose. Every single one of these things you wrote can be true about Putin and Russia and it still wouldn’t budge the situation on the ground at all, your condemnation isn’t magic. You can certainly take your ball and leave if you don’t want to talk to people with a different analysis, but you can’t go to Narnia.

      • nohaybanda [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        101·
        1 day ago

        I’m sorry, I’ll only discuss my true feelings on geopolitics with people who declare for proletarian revolution and call for a protracted people’s war against global Capital along Maoist third-worldist lines.

        Fuck outa here, dipshit. Engange or disengage, your call. I couldn’t tell you where the block person button is, never used it in the five years I’ve had this account, but I’m sure you already know. Feel free to crawl back to whatever hugbox you usually inhabit and brag how you karate-chopped a battalion of Putin’s strongest cyborg posters or something.