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      A very US-brained comment.

      I’ve attended multiple pride events/marches and I’ve been very glad of police presence. Every year there’s at least one bigot who tries to start a fight with someone on a march, and the police quickly put an end to it.

      A couple of years ago a man started shouting slurs then ran to attack another man immediately ahead of me (who had shouted back at the guy hurling abuse). A policeman appeared seemingly out of nowhere, sprinting, slide-tackling, then cuffing the aggressor, all before he could even land a punch on someone.

      Do you want to get rid of that protection? Would you rather it be a free-for-all where homophobes can attend and attack with impunity? Would you rather the attendee have been assaulted?

      Even aside from that, it is extremely stupid to want to drive a wedge between police and LGBT people. That will just make LGBT people less likely to seek help from police if they’ve been the victim of something, and further emboldens bigots in attacking LGBT people. Why wouldn’t you, if you knew they’d never go to the police about it?

      We are not the USA. Our police forces are not US police forces. The UK has many problems, but we are fortunate in having a relatively progressive, left-leaning police force (probably due to how much the Tories fucked them over with cuts).

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          It really isn’t.

          Police in the UK are generally not right wing. Why would they support people who hate them, slash their numbers, slash their funding, and gave them pay stagnation?

          The UK police is not like the US police where Republicans are clearly allied with them.

          US brain has hit you hard.

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            You are delusional if you think police is anything more than a tool of the status quo to maintain their power and do their dirty work. It doesn’t matter the country. Just a few recent examples: 1 2 3

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          I’m a trans person from the UK

          I never said you were from the US, I said you made a US-brained comment. Much of our politics, culture, and political discourse is influenced by the US, they’re undeniably an influential country.

          my experience…

          Then your experience is very, very different to mine.

          I think you are gravely mistaken if you think you’d be safer with no police. There is no shortage of people that want to attack LGBT people. If you think they’d leave you alone, think again. Knowing that there’s no police to assist would only embolden them.

          Do you think the police that voluntarily attended Pride/put Pride decals on their vehicles and uniforms are out to get you? Do you think that the TERF who raised this case is actually a hero fighting the good fight?

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            I think you are gravely mistaken if you think you’d be safer with no police. There is no shortage of people that want to attack LGBT people. If you think they’d leave you alone, think again. Knowing that there’s no police to assist would only embolden them.

            https://bradshawadvisory.com/insights/violent-crime-victims-by-gender-fdh3t

            There are more male murder victims than females. The above does not distinguish between trans/non-trans. Sadly, around 30% are with no suspect charged.A