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      4 days ago

      Herzl admited that he wanted the palestinians out like i mentionned in other comment. You are a zionist if you believe that zionists has eternal right to the land because of a two year old kingdom

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          Today yes but before it creation no, because zionists was imigrants that wanted to force a state by ethenically cleansing local population. It’s still ok to believe in a one state with equal right too

          Does palestine has a right to exists too?

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              Zionists do not support it , they always refused to give back all the land that was occupied by israel in 67 those land are palestinians under international law and do not support a one state solution either that would allow israeli and palestinian in the whole land of mandate palestine and live together with equal rights

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                There’s a lot wrong with what you just said. But we’ll poke into Mandate Palestine. So if these Zionists weren’t supportive of allowing Palestine to exist, then why would they be supportive of the initial UN-resolution that promised just that, equality for two states?

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                  Zionists knew that palestinians the local population wouldn’t accept to give up 55% of their land to recent imigrants owning only 9% of the land. Certain arabs also suggested a one state solution from the beginning which no zionist supported back then. Yoy also like to only read whst you want i told you that ben gurion ssid he want the whole land

                  If zionists really wanted peace they wouldn’t have occupied gaza and the west bank in 67, they wouldn’t support illegal settlements in west bank, they wouldn’t still call west bank as judea.

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                    I don’t think there’s any point in having this discussion with you. Like

                    If zionists really wanted peace they wouldn’t have occupied gaza and the west bank in 67

                    Is just so ignorant. This is a lost cause.

                    It was occupied because a war was declared on Israel. Why is the onus of peace on Israel as opposed to the Arab states that started the war? You handwaved points like calling Amin al-Husseini irrelevant and then doubling down, you ignored that there are anti-zionist dog-whistles, you downvote every reply I give you – You’re not arguing honestly, and I don’t have the patience to entertain this any longer.