lemmy.world had difficulty handling new account registration when I tried moving from Reddit in June 2023, so I tried to find/join other instances. People said “it doesn’t matter which instance you join.”

Oh it definitely mattered.

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    I didn‘t call anyone fascist directly, but rather described what they are doing in reality as fascist — in a facetious way, sure, but nonetheless the truth®.

    IMO, enlightened centrists are not equal to liberals, as that kind of category describes people that reject any kind of extreme position, while also laying claim on what is and what isn‘t the right thing to do or think and where these borders are to be drawn, all while being unable to break through their own biases and misconceptions … and always (!) end up personally attacking their opponent or argue against strawmen.

    Autocratic extremists in their own right. Destructive overall and enablers of fascist thought and therefore enablers of fascist realities.

    Here, in this very thread, we have folks, that are very likely economically oppressed themselves, but also refuse to actually educate themselves or can‘t stand to get educated by people that genuinely try to improve society. They rather ridicule the people, that use words like „capitalism“ or „imperialism“, as if those words weren‘t real things that shape the world we all live in, trying to „win“ in the name of their perspective, while also ignoring half the equation. Or that guy that downright wants to „nuke all leftist communities“. But surely, no fascists in sight.

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        @metallic_substance@lemmy.world calls the whole instance, or rather their users dipshits, has no argument, only ad hominem.

        @finitebanjo@lemmy.world offers insults involving cocks, not sure what‘s up with that, but that sure is another ad hominem without any argument.

        @finitebanjo@lemmy.world just doesn‘t take reality seriously, but thinks he‘s being clever by making fun of people that argue against capitalism.

        @gabbath@lemmy.world has similar delusions about imperialism

        Both are unserious people that have not a single original thing to offer, except ridicule towards more serious people.

        I absolutely misread the comment about „the best way to nuke any lefty community“ by @Gsus4@feddit.nl and therefore edited it out of my original comment.

        Anyway, the observation is, that this community is oozing with toxic behaviour, circlejerking on another group of people that they obviously don‘t even try to understand, but are afraid of and want to exlude or „get rid off“. Void of any arguments. This shit is what ignorant people do.

        @goat@sh.itjust.works (you, mod) stays superficial in their reaction on the content itself only to construct a strawman about a group that wasn‘t mentioned with an argument that wasn‘t made. — but, this might have been an honest interpretation, alright.

        Btw, goat, what is „ignorance“ in its political manifestation, if not the foundation of fascism? We should do better. You should do better. This place is a disgrace to any kind of intellectual discourse and the fediverse as a whole. You‘re modding a community driven by blind hatred.

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          I like how you’re calling people who post a pig shitting on itself as a “more serious people”

          But how do any of these comments support your claim that liberalism is fascism? And how are they ignorant exactly? Saying that ignorance creates fascism is extremely vague, that can mean anything.

          If you want a more serious discussion, we can certainly have one for a bit, you can start

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            I like how you’re calling people who post a pig shitting on itself as a “more serious people”

            Not sure exactly what your point is other then displaying your rotten character.

            You‘re babysitting a community, that exists and thrives only to poke fun at another set of people they‘ve learned to disagree with, even dehumanizing them, wanting to get rid of them, and you‘re participating and replicating it. The justification is „documenting“, but all you‘re documenting is your very limited world view and your malice.

            What’s a person to think of this kind of mindset?

            Tell me, because that‘s the purpose of this thread.

            And how are they ignorant exactly?

            Saying that ignorance creates fascism is extremely vague, that can mean anything.

            Hm, yes indeed, since ignorance implies a lack of knowledge, this might not be the most precise term. What’s observable here is more of a willful set of actions and beliefs that‘s actively fostered: dehumanization, tribalism, hate, bigotry, malevolance, eliminationism.

            Ignorance goes along with that, but might be a step removed. Let‘s call it wilful ignorance then. What it leads to other than fascism? Maybe think about that yourself, instead of asking outsiders, that you don‘t take seriously anyway.

            But how do any of these comments support your claim that liberalism is fascism?

            If you want a more serious discussion, we can certainly have one for a bit, you can start

            Good bait. Bad reading comprehension. You’re a troll and acting in bad faith. Let‘s discuss, once you grow up.

            E: Earlier you said this, too bad you didn‘t expand on it:

            I agree that the West looks at the world with a western lens and that is ignorant.

            What did you actually mean here? What is ignorant about it? What are the consequences? What is this „western lens“ actually doing with this community? And why are you running a community built on ignorance then? Classic Lib strategy of saying things that sound progressive, but upon closer inspection are empty shells to hide their ignorance?

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              Holy projection dude lol

              what an unhinged reaction

              Not sure exactly what your point is other then displaying your rotten character.

              also it’s than

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                Oh look, no argument, like at all, none, nada. Only arrogant ridicule and ad hominem, as if I havent laid that bare a couple comments ago. At least try to show that you are a sincere subject. How boring.

                what an unhinged reaction

                Delivered as ordered. Here to impress you.

                also it’s than

                Thanks, always a class act and so helpful. And that‘s all you got? Who cares, lol.

                Should be fine to call you out as the dipshit, head roach and dictator removed that you are, wouldn‘t you agree? Or does that only apply to „others“? Maybe we should just get rid of you and this deranged community?

                What are your thoughts on this? Or on any of the other arguments and questions I‘ve put forward, annoyed, but at least in good faith? You haven’t answered one.

                If you want to lead such an important community, maybe lead by example and be better thän the people you „document“? Don‘t you want to act as transparent as possible, after all, we need your point of view, so the unhinged commentators actually have something to refer to, instead of projecting? This can only increase post quality!

                goooaaat, you dipshit, don‘t chicken out, what are you afraid of? Aren‘t you rationally and morally superior? Bring forth some kind of intellectually honest thought. I allow you to be unhinged, as well. Show us your true colours!

                E: I‘m serious, tho, in as far as I‘m quite disappointed, that although I tried to engage in (IMO) serious criticism, you offered not one serious exchange. You can reject that as unserious projection, or whatever you need to not actually engage, but please realise, that you turn out to be deeply unserious, yourself, as you don‘t even manage to answer the most basic questions about your own stated opinions or the behaviour of your users. And that does paint a picture.

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                  bruh i offered a discussion and you declined – You said I was baiting, that I have bad reading comprehension, that I’m a troll and acting in bad faith.

                  Perhaps if you demonstrate your legitimacy by apologising, then we can have a discussion. Until then, everyone can only take you as a troll.

                  Unless your own reading comprehension is so bad that you took me saying “you start” as me calling you unserious, which I wasn’t. I was saying you can start the topic lol