The suggestion was put forward during discussions between President Donald Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff and his Russian counterparts, a source with insight into the U.S. National Security Council told the paper.

Witkoff, who also serves as the White House’s Middle East envoy, reportedly backs the suggestion, which the U.S. believes will solve the issue of the Ukrainian constitution prohibiting giving up territory without organizing a referendum. While Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has rejected any notion of ceding territory, the new occupation proposal may lead to a truce following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, which began in February 2022.

According to the proposal, Ukraine’s borders would remain officially unchanged, similar to the borders of the West Bank, even as Israel controls the territory. “It’ll just be like Israel occupies the West Bank,” the source told The Times.

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    Unless Ukrainians are the smartest people in the world a 98% vote on anything is virtually impossible

    Not if the Banderite regime asked to boycott the referendum bcs they called it illegal.
    That is if opponents were even there since a lot of them moved to Banderite controlled regions.

    Is that not a Russian source?

    Yes it is, but I can’t even see that page since my democratic EU regime has made the choice for me that I am incapable of deciding what is real or ‘RuZZian propaganda!’ so they block Russian outlets.
    We can only have toootally neutral pro-western ‘news’.

    And it’s a bit rich to complain about only Russian sources since it’s the OCSE that refused to send observers.

    There are plenty of translations of Putins speeches and statements on the subject.
    I recommend you read those.

    Anyway, the only important thing to remember is that there was a US orchestrated and funded fascist coup and they put a puppet regime in place, same as they did in Afghanistan or the many many countries they regime change.

    I don’t get how you can back the most agressive imperialist country in the world, especially since this particular proxy is openly and proudly fascist.

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      There are plenty of translations of Putins speeches and statements on the subject.
      I recommend you read those.

      Such as which translation? The Tucker interview hasn’t had any criticism of poor translation. Tucket got personally invited for it.

      I’m in no way sympathetic to the US. In fact weakening the empire is probably what I support most. But not at the cost of a million Ukrainians.

      Let’s not forget who invaded Afghanistan before the US. I don’t think Russia would use their power differently than NATO now if they were the global hegemon instead of the West.

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        https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/06/putins-full-speech-brics-nato-expansion-and-ukraine-peace-talk-conditions.html#more
        That took about 10 seconds to find. For the 10th time don’t care about your Carlson.

        I’m in no way sympathetic to the US. In fact weakening the empire is probably what I support most. But not at the cost of a million Ukrainians.

        You certainly are trying to whitewash and defend them.
        Dead ukros are 100% the US fault.

        Let’s not forget who invaded Afghanistan before the US.

        LOL you clearly know as little about that as you do about ex-ukraine.
        The USSR never “invaded”. It was explicitly asked by the government of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, a Soviet ally and the legitimate government of Afghanistan at the time, to intervene and help them fight the US backed islamist terrorist insurgency.
        The same way Syria asked Russia to help fight the US funded headchoppers.
        The US on the contrary invaded illegally, again.

        I don’t think Russia would use their power differently than NATO

        That is indeed only what you think bcs you clearly lack knowledge of history, geopolitics and military potential of Russia.