The more I hear people talk about it who aren’t cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I’ve only heard people say that it’s stupid, that it’s not a thing, that it’s men’s own fault etc. But I’ve yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don’t want to start a discussion on whether or not it’s real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

    • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      21 hours ago

      Generalisation of a such large group of people. Love it.

      What would you say if i say “black people are bad”? Because there are also a lot of bad black people out there

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        If you were to say “black people are bad” then the rebuttal typically becomes “due to established power structures, white men can’t be oppressed, therefore I can say what I want about them”.

        I think it’s hard to have a reasoned discussion where you say “all men do X” because for every X, there’s probably a bunch of exceptions. There is a great amount of variance in male behavior.

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      I am currently a men, am I bad?

      Are you a men? Are you bad because of it?

      If not, by virtue of being a not-men are you good?