I think you’re overreacting. He’s far from assured, but also far from out of the race.

There isn’t one type. There are the ones like Bezos and Dell, who got rich by growing one or more businesses, and are still at it. They likely don’t work normal hours, but they likely work more than 40. Some of those, like Gates, get older and move on to other things like foundation work, but not an actual job. Hard to say what kind of hours they work. Then there are the ones like Christy Walton, who inherited their wealth and don’t really ever work.

I know quite a number of them. My company is overall pretty conservative, with lots of ex military. Many folks are lifelong Republicans but have adamantly said they won’t vote for Trump.

I completely agree, which was more or less my point.

I can’t think of a Democrat who has a better chance from this juncture, sadly.

Like who are you thinking?

I think the numbers of those two groups are significantly different. There are a number of moderate Republicans who will vote for Biden but wouldn’t vote for someone like Sanders or AOC.

Exactly! If you say that Biden should drop out for the good of the country, a bunch of people nod their heads, but if you say trump should, everyone just laughs.

I’m for sure on team “Not Trump, and not a Republican.” I think the debate really may have weakened Biden’s chances, but I can’t think of anyone who I’m confident could do better in the election. And I really mean “in the election” - there are certainly some who I think could do better as president, but they either don’t have the name recognition or wouldn’t pull in the moderates.

I’d love to see a true progressive, but there are an awful lot of people who simply won’t vote for one. So I’m sticking with Biden and hoping for the best.

Trump’s lies have gotten so over the top. We’re like two steps away from him saying he was one of the guys who walked on the moon.

And his cult will believe it.

So most of Trump’s are just outright lies, while most of Biden’s are things like “Well it’s true it happened but it’s hard to know if it’s because of him,” or “It’s true Trump said that a bunch of times but he hasn’t been saying that lately.”

Really sorry to hear about your mom. I’m older, and both my parents are dead. You’d think that, since it’s the norm than your parents die before their kids, we’d be more emotionally prepared for our parents dying, but I found it pretty tough in both cases. The second one is particularly bad. Hang in there and focus on the good memories.

Bill is a treasure, and Martin Short is so fast.

Thank god it’s over!

So… There’s really going to be a second debate? I don’t know that I can take it.

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I agree, and have said the same repeatedly. In 2020, I just wanted a president who wasn’t a complete crook, con man, and national embarrassment. I didn’t think Biden would accomplish much, I just hoped he could repair our reputation with other countries a little.

I was stunned that Biden accomplished more than Obama. He certainly isn’t perfect, but he’s fine a good job. Just that infrastructure bill would be something most presidents would take as their legacy, but he’s done a lot more.

He’s too damned old, but I’ll still take him over Trump.

It’s gotten better, and I agree. I’m really happy about them turning off the mics. But I still think they’re letting Trump ramble more than Biden.

Everyone is just hoping their guy doesn’t say something that will hurt their campaign. Not sure anyone is happy though.

And who is going to appoint the next supreme court justices

Mine has passed out in a pool of sweat.

Oh my god, Trump just said “I’ve never seen anybody lie like this guy” and he wasn’t pointing at himself.

Ha! I didn’t even notice that.

Starlink, Starship, Starliner… who can keep them straight?

/s