This is the most hilarious thing I have read in a while. I want so badly to comment, “You know you are talking about OP, right?” but I don’t need this in my life lol

Thank you so much for explaining it! I just checked major news sites and there was nothing, just that it was “terrorism”.

I realize I didn’t share my stance on antinatalism, which is probably super telling. It’s so far removed from my life and experiences I simply don’t think about it that much lol.

In my perfect world there would be no unwanted pregnancy or forced birth. The quiver full movement is wack as fuck. Both forcing people to give birth and giving birth to people to have them be your little soldiers are abhorrent behaviors to me.

I have never wanted to have children so I don’t understand that part of the human experience. I don’t think it’s inherently moral or immortal to want to and succeed in procreating. I don’t know enough about the topic (and don’t think internet antinatalists do either) to try and tell people what they should be doing like that. I don’t think there is a net good to me or anyone else that I was born but I also don’t think it’s that deep 🤷🏻‍♀️

This is the first I have heard about the incident in Palm Springs. Everything I read about it seems to presume I would know who is against fertility clinics but I can’t figure it out. Would be grateful if someone could clue me in. (I thought that the current flavor of US fascism supported fertility clinics. I know some religions are against it but seems unclear who would do it, especially without a statement.)

My take differs from what Hamid posted slightly - but it could also be me reading too much into it, lol! I read this statement as presenting life as inherently good an joyful, something to be enjoyed.

I personally view it as neutral. It just is. It is not inherently good or bad, there is no meaning. But paired with that is a fiery opposition to treating some life as worthless or as a source of commodities. To me, life has no meaning but fuck anyone who tries to impose meaning on any being through their authority. Examples include capitalism (workers lives are to produce value for the capitalist), patriarchy (people who can give birth’s lives are to produce workers), carnism (animal lives are here to extract commodities from). Also fuck everyone who withholds the requirements for life (access to food, water, clean air, community).

The point of veganism is to elevate all life to the consideration that is supposed to be enjoyed by humans. The point of leftism is to ensure that all humans are elevated to that status too and protect each other.

This is probably just semantics and me being way too literal in my thinking but the above is where my veganism and leftism is centered and it is so without the idea of “promoting” life. We’re here, we’re alive, and we all deserve to live in peace, comfort and community.

Utilitarianism assigns value in an arbitrary manner based on the observers values and that’s super wack to me.

I want as many sentient beings to have the best lives possible

For me, this is where utilitarianism falls apart. It makes the observer the person who gets to decide what “the best lives possible” means. How can the outside observer have the authority to make this decision?

When talking about humans, consider when people defend colonialism by saying they brought “civilization” and modern medicine, comforts, etc. to people who did not live the way the colonizers did. I’m not saying that non-colonized people live in some utopia, but the people who thought they were doing good didn’t give a single fuck about what the colonized people wanted, disregarded all their knowledge and experience and forced their ways on them. Even if we take lessons learned from that and try and be more open minded about listening to people before making decisions about them (my skin is crawling as I type this omg) we don’t know what we don’t know and it makes no sense to apply this framework to decision making impacting others.

Now consider non-human animals and how we are even less effective at communicating with them…

The loquat seed is very exciting!

I fucking hate ground elder. I’ve seriously considered a flame thrower.

Sorry to report that cardboard and mulch is not foolproof either. I’ve got a dump truck full of wood chips coming so I’ll try again.

Sending you good vibes in this stressful time ✨

Sigh. I usually have a personal rule about getting into arguments on the internet but I have no self control today apparently. I’m not even american but this comment missed the point so spectacularly, I feel the need to reply. Not as an attack on the person I am replying to, but almost as an academic exercise…

Interesting. I mean, I’m sure Bernie has faults but I don’t really see the point in attacking someone who created and is holding the only tent pole for, frankly, a reasonable middle of the road candidate (if we view him in comparison to the rest of the sane world).

I belive the message of the meme is that Bernie is doing harm but accumulating support as a more leftwing senator and then failing to actually take any meaningful stance. When people put hope into a member of the establishment that exists to uphold the current system at all costs, they give themselves a pat on the back, consider the job done, and fail to look at other possibilities which would lead to their actual liberation. The idea that he serves to “hold the tent pole” for a middle of the road candidate is not logical because in practice he is no different than the rest of the DNC.

But I agree with you, attacking Bernie isn’t the way. Reeks of agent provocateur.

My guess is it’s a fresh wave of propaganda to wedge the progressives. What’s new.

I don’t understand how this could in any way be compared to an agent provocateur, but I suppose what is meant is sowing discord more than the more literal meaning. Overall, I agree. This meme is meant to point out that Bernie is actively harmful to liberation of the american people and is meant to ask people to wedge from the “progressives” who seek polite imperialism.

People don’t have to be perfect for us to join the cause and make it better. Don’t fall for it kids. We only get out of this if we ignore this bullshit and link arms.

I don’t disagree with this statement but the OP isn’t attacking Bernie for being imperfect but pointing out that this is by design.

Ps: and look, I get it if Bernie isn’t left enough for some of you. That’s ok to feel that way and it’s probably true for a good lot of you. But attacking him ain’t gonna solve the massive fuckstorm we are collectively going to go through. We either quit bullshit like this or die from factionalization. Like every other movement has in the past 95 years.

Supporting the DNC isn’t going to fix your country either. There is no path to liberation within your current system. Good luck tho ✌️

Some are better than none!

I have given up my beloved cute as hell office chair (this one: https://pin.it/6MECQQHKk ) and bought one that supports proper posture, as well as a monitor stand as I am getting old and sitting wrong hurts. To be clear, all you whippersnappers should practice good ergonomics too!

I don’t work from home or anything like that, but my office (slash the guest room) is my little sanctuary and I’ve decided to spruce it up a bit, including cable management and replacing the landlord special blinds that were in place when we moved here 4 years ago.

I’m sad to throw away my old chair which I have had for 6 or 7 years, but it’s fake leather fabric is coming apart where I tried to clean it and I don’t think anyone would want it.

I’m so happy for you and your new friends!

Succulents are super dangerous lol. I bought two on the weekend with no real plan on where they should go.

I miss grass. It’s coming back soon, I’m sure. Things are starting to bud at the potato house.

Pixelfed is kind of annoying on my phone (it’s hard to comment or reply to comments) so I’m down for whatever. I don’t know enough about the fedverse to be able to suggest something.

I’m always happy to see your memes - you excel at shitposting 👑

I’ve been trying to take better care of myself and my family and we’re going to try and make dinner together on Sundays instead of just hobbling together each meal from various parts around the house (i.e. bulk cooked beans, rice, etc.). I’ve also started taking my B12 daily because I am old and not invincible anymore and no longer knocking back energy drinks like I used to.

As for gardening: We have some seeds started but it’s time to start planning in earnest, I need to get the annuals started soon or they won’t be big enough to plant when it’s time. I generally don’t plant before June 1 due to frost risk. Things like peas should be getting out there now, maybe I’ll try and get some in tomorrow.

But I’m just going to smoke weed and eat greens for the rest of the night 🤷🏻‍♀️

My tool kit for antivegan comments is the delete button 🤷🏻‍♀️

Happy birthday pocket vegans 🎉

My favorite kind of lib hypocrisy is how it’s cool and based to join an extra-governmental freedom fight it’s in the service of an established and recognized nation (e.g. paramilitary units in Ukraine), but not voting is literally a war crime and murdering brown people just living their lives is unavoidable because of idk…reasons?

No war but class (and thus also anti speciest) war ✊

Naw fam, it’s speciest as hell to put human feelings before animal lives.

So glad to not see that shit spammed here.

1. Been really enjoying Doechii
2. I think I first had tofu as a vegetarian, but that was in the late 90s and was a teen with little exposure to non-western food. Tofu was available in most grocery stores but I did have to go to the health food store for any sort of “substitute” that’s wasn’t soymilk lol.

Once my Forsythia bloom it’s over for this seasonal depression.

Hello fell clay soil haver! I think I’ve had a total of 3 dump trucks of wood chips over the years and we’ll do at least two more this summer. My traps will be so strong!