I hate to break it to you, but this is a phenomenon happening all over the world, it’s not unique to any single society or culture. Not to mention that you don’t even have a real proposal in mind. Your grand solution here is demonize boys and wag your finger at their parents, if you think that’s going to achieve anything then you’re really are out of touch.

If all you care about is wagging your finger to feed your weird moral superiority complex, go ahead. However, I don’t have any interest in that. I want to see real, pragmatic, and tangible steps being taken to ensure that we get real results. The reality is that we have a new technology that’s completely unregulated, and this lack of regulation is causing this tech to be utilized in ways that shouldn’t be allowed. Deepfake websites shouldn’t be allowed to operate legally, and kids shouldn’t be able to access them so easily. Will a ban stop everyone? Of course not, however, it will greatly decrease the amount of people seeking because it’s not longer convenient to do so That’s how we can prevent situation like this one.

It’s literally only the far right and far left that support Russia, and the reason for that is because they are both funded by them.

Not to mention that Russia didn’t stop in the 90s. They had the Chechnya wars, they kept Transnistria, they sold off all of their assets to a handful of oligarchs, and they never embraced democracy. It’s the same ol’, same ol’ with them.

I automatically subtrack 50 IQ points for anyone who uses the word “libs” as a pejorative because it’s ALWAYS either some brain dead Marxist or conservative.

No liberal is pro Russia, they’re the one most vocal about their actions. The only ones who support them are Marxists and conservatives.

It’s bad even for social media standards.

You sound completely out of touch.

If you bothered to read the rest of the comment instead of just the first two sentences, you’ll see that I explained exactly why this an idiotic idea that won’t achieve anything. You have to actually be brain dead to think that finger wagging to a bunch of teenagers is going to result in anything, not to mention that you can’t control how parents will raise their kids nor can you control the knowledge parents have of this tech. This is something that can ONLY be solved through legislation.

A very big issue with our education system is that there’s no nuance in it. The way the system is set up makes it so that schools are incentivized to compete with each other to please the district, and the district to please the state. That’s how they get their funding. What this leads to is schools putting their best interests ahead of their students. If schools prioritized the students, they would’ve taken the context of the story and punished the bully and not the victim. However, since they prioritize themselves, they tried to keep the story under wraps to avoid bad PR, and expelled her regardless of context so they can distant themselves and save their image.

If it’s not CSAM then it should be

We need to find out how to raise boys that cant even conceive of this kind of conduct

Brain dead take. This is not a matter of parenting, it’s a matter of policy. You can’t stop this kind of behavior by scolding boys, and that’s not exactly the right way to get about it in the first place. Hormonal teenagers will forever be horny and creative. If they’re not finding every loophole to have sex, then they’re going to find the wackiest methods to get the next best thing. For some teen who can barely think straight, this is a quick way to get satisfaction from a crush without having the bravery of actually interacting with them.

That convenience is the problem. It is SO easy for anyone to get their hands on deepfake technology, and they’re so easy to use. You just find one of the hundreds of websites online, post a picture, and boom you’re done. Not only is it that easy, but their parents don’t even know such a technology exists because they come from a different era. In fact, they many won’t know of it until it’s too late.

Besides, no amount of talks stopped or parental controls stopped teens from watching porn, why would this be any different? The answer is that it’s not. The only serious way to address this issue, and it is a big issue, is through legislation. There’s need to be a federal ban that completely outlaws these deepfake websites, and this ban has to be actually enforced. At the very least there needs to be state bans, there just has to be some sort of legislation in place to ban or regulate this tech. Currently there is nothing.

Will this be fool proof? Of course not, when there’s a will, there’s a way. However, it will become way more difficult for your average person to do so. A 13 year can find a website and upload a picture, but it’ll harder for them to go on the dark web and do the same thing or install an AI model like Stable Diffusion locally and set it up to do deepfakes. These extra steps remove the convenience out of the equation, and make things like normal porn or interacting with their peers the better option.

And you know what? Those same leftists will elect her, defend her, and then complain about the lack of progress.

You know what’s funny? The people who downvoted you for this comment are the same exact people who turn around and complain about misogyny in society.

Why would anybody use Threads? I made an account on there just to see what it’s about and it was so shitty that I ended up deleting a couple of hours later. Most of the content is just ragebait, political misinformation, and businesses/influencers trying to shill something. For every 10 posts you might get 1 or 2 that doesn’t fall in these categories. It’s just bad, and not in a good way.

If they remove this then there’s no reason to get an android

How is it besides the point? It is the point. These people are genuinely ignorant and uneducated, and their sources for information are very narrow and distorted. Their perceptive can only change when they’re directly affected because that experience is what gives them the change necessary to learn and grow. You’re implying that they’re all malicious and evil, but I disagree with that view. I don’t they all lack empathy, I think they’re good people who have been brainwashed by a handful of genuinely vile people who seek to manipulate them for their own personal gain by keeping them blind, poor, miserable, scared, and angry. Do I think this of all MAGA? No, but I do think it applies to a significant chunk.

What the hell are you even talking about? You can’t even follow your own statements. It’s like you’re mentally lost. This is what you originally said:

If the revolution ever comes, they should not be forgiven.

This clearly an implicit statement of vengeance. You’re definitely some sort of Marxist, and you think that when the revolution comes, people like her should be killed or at the very least be punished for the crime of participating in their society.

You could’ve been honest and owned up to it, but you chose to deny it and follow it up with this weird backpedaling take:

We must build a better world without their input or consent. we must have a world where everyone is free and have access to a dignified life. But that does not mean to forgive them let alone forget what they did. They should have access to the same lives everyone else have access to, but they will do so without friends, without family, with everyone spiting them

This is still clearly punitive in nature because your primary goal isn’t to make things better, but rather to make sure that they pay a price as a punishment. Which again is an act of vengeance.

I could’ve almost led this slide as some misguided view about not forgetting history or something along those lines, but you chose to add this at the end:

Do you think we should have pardoned everyone in the Nuremberg trials?

Really? This is the event you wanted to cite here? Not only does this demonstrate your astounding ignorance of these trails, what happened in them, and what the takeaways are, but it also shows that you’re seeking a form of collective punishment using guilt by association as the justification… which is precisely the opposite of what these trials hoped to achieve.

Now, once again, you’re denying previous statement and giving yet another weird backpedaling take:

where did I say to punish her? I’m only saying shes not to be trusted, and we shouldn’t work with her.

“not inviting me unconditionally after I intentionally destroyed the country is a cruel punishment”

Which takes us back to square one you can’t seem to comprehend the fact acceptance and vengeance aren’t opposites of each other. An actual pragmatic take would be that is simply idiotic to try to collectively punish a huge demographic like this, especially on the grounds of guilt by association, for the crime of them participating in their society within the context of their system. It is better from a strategic point of view to firmly acknowledge their mistakes while being open to cooperating with those who reach the same conclusion. Those who have disavowed their previous beliefs provide a strategic opportunity to create a coalition that gets to advance an agenda ends MAGA fascism and implements better policies faster.

Even if we don’t see eye to eye with these people on everything, it’s better to recognize that disagreements are a fact of politics and that it’s better to utilize this common ground to achieve common goals wherever possible, as opposed to not achieving them at all due to stubbornness. This is an infinitely better option than to seek eternal retribution or hold eternal grudges. Holding this view doesn’t mean that you endorse MAGA ideology or that you forget everything that happened, it just means that you’re practical in your aims. This view is the ONLY view of people who believe in democracy as a system of governance. Rejection of it for something more rigid, absolute, and violent just means that you’re an authoritarian.

It’s literally the opposite. I’m saying people like her are not MAGA, and they can serve to bolster a coalition that can help advance good policy… which is what’s most important at the end of the day. You’re myopic worldview limits your to only ever interact with people who 100% agree with you, and your only solution is revolution because you think that will lead to some purifying reset. You’re in a bubble dude, you lack the ability to be pragmatic in any meaningful sense.

I can agree with that, but being ignorant or uneducated doesn’t mean someone lacks empathy.

So it looks like I was spot on, you really are self righteous moral crusader with superiority complex.

Also, it’s not a matter of acceptance. It’s a matter of strategic opportunity. You can’t ever achieve anything at all if all you ever do is gatekeep, run endless purity tests, and operate in absolute extremes.

But you’re making the assumption that it’s inevitable to gain an understanding. I think you’re underestimating the sheer levels of ignorance that people like this live under. Some people are so ignorant that their only sources of information are Facebook and Fox News, and so they only ever see one perspective, and that perspective is their truth. Their perspective, their truth, is basically whatever Trump says taken at face value and regurgitated by right wing media.

I think its true. Think about it, a big part of right wing ideology, at least in the US, over the past decade or so is the idea that there’s global network of powerful individuals who influence how the world is run, who are discretely working together to run a child trafficking ring. This idea has spanned quite a few conspiracy theories from pizzagate to Q anon to the Epstein list. A very large chunk of the right not only believe this, but it is the basis of their political beliefs.

The reason why this part of the right gravitated towards Trump to begin with is because he’s the only one who entertained the idea. While all the other politicians ignored or denied these conspiracies, Trump used them to gain support. In 2016 Trump claimed that he was going to go against the establishment, expose their crimes, and drain the swamp. In 2020 he claimed that the powerful elites were conspiring against him because he was close to exposing them and they’re trying to steal the election to keep him out. In 2024 he claimed that he will release the Epstein files the first day he’s in office again.

A lot of people genuinely believed that he would do this even though he himself is a powerful elite, has close ties to the people who ran the pedo rings, and there’s allegation that he even participated… but then again, we’re not talking about the most critically skilled bunch. Regardless, these people supported Trump because he promised to deliver what they sought, and so in that sense they’re more loyal to their belief in their conspiracies then they are to Trump himself.

When the Epstein list turned out to be a real thing, their long running conspiracy theory has finally been validated, and they pinned all their hopes on the one guy in the political sphere who promised to bring it all out to light on day one. So when that time came and Trump started his second term, nothing happened. These people started getting antsy and they started putting more and more pressure on Trump and his admin to explain the delays, especially after Bondi explicitly stated that the files were on her desk.

So when Bondi and Trump suddenly did a 180 and not only refused to release the Epstein files, but straight up denied their existence, that’s when the spell was finally broken on some of these MAGA types who hitched a ride just for these files to be exposed to the public. This was doubly so when he publicly disowned any supporter who even entertained the idea of its existence. At that point even the most dimwitted MAGA who joined the movement for the truth saw that Trump was not only not going to deliver on his promises, but he basically just admitted that he’s guilty. He’s one of the elite they were trying to go after all this time.

This portion of MAGA is what became disenfranchised, they’re no longer see Trump as a fit leader for the movement even if they believe a lot of what he stands for. You don’t hear about them or see them as much, because they’re not really a part of MAGA anymore. They’ve been banned from all MAGA spaces virtual and irl the moment Trump disavowed them, and they’ve been rejected as being liberals by the more brainwashed MAGAs who are still in the movement, in fact these ultra brainwashed MAGAs are the movement.

This may ironically be a conspiracy theory on my part, but I firmly believe that this rift is real. I have never, ever seen the comment sections on Fox News, ONN, Brietbart as well as the Twitter, Truth Social, and the right wing youtube space turn as heavily against Trump as that moment. I think this was the last straw for a lot of them, and I assure you that Trump and his MAGA candidates are going to be shells of themselves in terms of performance in every election from now on.