Just posted in another thread about 800k people losing 2 billion because they bought Trump’s meme coin. Turns out there’s a whole lot of “find out” happening now.

As much as I don’t want regular people to suffer, this is like hearing about someone who thought everyone who didn’t drink bleach was stupid and they were going to prove something by downing it. At no point was that coin a good idea for anyone except the ones who got on early and guessed the right time to dump it, and that information was very freely available.

I’d say maybe losing a lot of their own money will finally teach people not to trust Trump, but a) we are so far past the point of trust based on logic and facts that I doubt it and b) it’s too late anyways, they’ve already given him monarch levels of power and money. Plus Trump will probably blame the crash on malicious immigrants blatantly and black women slyly (DEI) and his base will lap it up.

I’m worried about that. I’m hearing a lot of people either giving into despair or openly discussing what I’ll call “illegal opposition”. I really like a lot of Americans and I don’t want to see war and/or oppression hit. But I’m bracing for it, as I think a lot of nations are.

I agree with all you said. I just wanted to say as a Canadian that I still like a lot of Americans. I hate your political parties and many of the decisions they have made in my 44 years, but a lot of Americans do as well. Your country is being fucking savaged by your new leaders right now and I have no clue what the future holds. I do hope that our two nations can resume a relationship that has been one of the best/most productive in history once you folks have figured out how to deal with your presidents Musk and Trump.

Threaten this, finger-wag that, “concerned” legal expert opinions… As a Canadian looking in, your “opposition” leaders better start getting results quickly because Trump’s administration is demolishing your country’s organizations and checks/balances VERY quickly. If official opposition through established means doesn’t deliver wins in the near future I’m worried about what happens when half your population loses faith in legal ways of resisting. I don’t want to see either a civil war or an unchecked dictatorship a few hundred kilometers south of me.

Oh yeah buddy, big win for Trump there. This picture from this post is applicable:

Canada gave up nothing, we just reiterated our commitment to the exact same promises already made before Trump was even in power. The only thing this pointless, unnecessary chest-thumping accomplished was the world found out how quickly the USA betrays even it’s closest ally. Trump traded in a lot of international goodwill in order to “win” something already agreed to before his presidency so he could brag about it to credulous people like you.

For people who claim to love the Founding Fathers, the current US government sure is speedrunning the death of the Father’s vision of a nation free from religious control and without monarch levels of unchecked power.

Have you always felt tired or is this a new thing?

If you’ve always had trouble then you may have a chronotype that is set to differ from your daily routine. Research suggests it’s heavily influenced by genetics. Unfortunately I’m not sure what to do about it if that’s the case since the world is designed to run on 9-to-5 with no regard for those that don’t fit.

If it’s new, then think back to when you weren’t tired and what has changed since then. Changes in diet, sleep habits, weight, stress, stopping working out and more can all affect sleep quality.

Pentagon staff removed Milley’s portrait because the brains of Trump’s cabinet haven’t developed enough to have object permanence. If they can’t see the portrait they could very well forget his existence and Milley might be safe from this administration.

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I would never finish a game 8 times longer than Witcher 3+exansions. I started once, got burned out and had to restart a year later to get to the end. Enjoyed it a lot but yeah. I don’t need like 1600 hours of anything.

I never thought you were being inflammatory or attacking me, but thank you for an apology/clarification even if it wasn’t necessary. I thought your response provided valuable perspective, and reminded us all that people are a diverse group that defies blanket categorization. I asked for your feedback because I legitimately didn’t know how to fold that into my post, which as I said was the truth of what I experienced. I also wanted to help divorce criticism of people like Elon Musk from “accusations” of mental disability, which I don’t feel should be an accusation or “gotcha”.

After over 25 years of work of varying intensity with psychiatrists, I’m legally permanently disabled because of mental illness and I have lived on permanent disability for several years. I’m lucky in that I’m physically and mentally capable, so most people won’t even know until they are close enough to me to start learning about my lifestyle and day-to-day experience. Even so I’ve experienced a fair bit of both well-meaning and malicious misunderstanding. Those misunderstandings are of course worse and more consistent for people with developmental and intellectual disabilities, and I don’t want to be part of that. That’s why I’m taking our conversation seriously.

I’m not going to delete my post because I stand beside what I said, but I did include the following edit: “Edit: Following discussion below, I think it would be right and humanizing to add a reminder to myself and others. Although my time with that particular group was positive, the mentally disabled are people like any of us and each will be different in terms of friendliness, happiness, and social capability.”

I don’t think that short addition will interrupt the flow or message of my post, and will address some of the context you’ve provided.

That’s an interesting addition and I have no reason to doubt you. It’s quite possible the people I saw regularly were there exactly because they were inclined to be friendly and happy. It probably also helps that they were closely accompanied by professionals. I can only comment on my experience with them, and what I wrote was accurate to that. I mean, one guy who was more physically able would do curls with me and call me Superman and I called him Batman. The reason I started talking to them is one really thin girl stopped while doing laps in a group and told me she loved me. I still smile thinking about those moments.

I honestly don’t know if I agree that it’s harmful to relay my couple of years interacting with the intellectually disabled as I did. It’s definitely the truth of my experience. At the same time I can completely believe it’s not the whole truth, and varies by individual. After all, I would only spend 10-30 minutes working out while they were nearby before I moved on. I’d definitely continue to insist that even the nasty folks aren’t doing anywhere near as much damage to global society as Elon Musk though.

Do you think I should change my post? And if so - how, given what I’ve written in this reply? Edit: after thinking about it, perhaps your followup will be enough to provide context?

This is an insult to people that would have been given that label in those days. Those folks are some of the happiest, friendliest people I’ve ever met. Until a couple years ago I used to work out a city gym and interact with a group of the intellectually disabled who would come in for exercise. They told me they loved me, worked out with me, laughed with me and they were one of the best parts of gym time.

Edit: Following discussion below, I think it would be right and humanizing to add a reminder to myself and others. Although my time with that particular group was very positive, the mentally disabled are people like any of us and each will be different in terms of friendliness, happiness, and social capability.

Musk runs propaganda platforms, fights unions, visits Epstein islands, buys elections, and is THE example of the oligarchy that is in a very real way ruining the world and destroying hope. He has no right to be given a label that would historically place him in the same category as the people I knew for years.

In addition to my other comment, this is applicable: Harris didn’t lose the election because of Gaza or protest voters - “the election was not close enough for the war to be a decisive factor”. Harvard research and Harris polls place Gaza as 15th among voter’s primary concerns. She lost because she ran what Bernie Sanders called a “disastrous campaign” that abandoned working class Americans. Instead of listening to and solidifying support among her base, she tried to court conservatives with moves like campaigning with the fucking Cheneys(!) and running commercials about wives secretly voting for her and hiding the truth from their husbands.

Democrats need to stop playing center field politically, and stop blaming left-leaning voters or protest voters for their party’s failure to listen to the concerns of their base.

Pick a different subject to talk about Harris vs. Trump votes. There are arguments with a lot of merit, but this isn’t one them. Like the Palestinians said, it’s already hell. A hell of destroyed hospitals, schools and housing, of war crimes like murdered children, manufactured famine, rape, and torture…all with complete support from a Democrat President and large parts of his party.

Trump is going to create a lot of ruin if he accomplishes 10% of what he promises, but with the story being Trump’s approach to Gaza, stop pretending as if Biden has done better or Kamala would. On that issue it’s not as if either candidate would have done fuck all about Gaza other than continue to support the ethnic cleansing. There’s a reason Biden will be remembered as Genocide Joe. He repeatedly, explicitly affirmed the USA’s COMPLETE support of Israel and acted in accordance with that. He did nothing when Israel crossed “red lines” except provide Israel with more weapons and money. At least we’re spared the torturous, blatant hypocrisy of “we’re committed to peace” on the same week billions in arms deals are signed.

Let me head off rebuttals that amount to “but at least Harris might have tried”. She also explicitly confirmed continued support for Israel, and offered zero credible objections to blank cheque support as VP. The only thing the world could have expected from her were more “serious concerns” speeches.

Edit: And I don’t give even the slightest damn about downvotes. Both Dems and Republicans are HORRIFIC regarding this war, which has met the standard for genocide and is riddled with war crimes. I’m not going to shut up about it or pretend Harris would have been better because of popularity. Asking if protest voters feel stupid because Trump says it’s going to be hell is a resounding no, because people are right in saying it’s been that for over a year. America’s policy was already incredibly evil with no change even hinted at from Kamala and more of the same promised. And no, I’m not a protest voter (I’m Canadian and told people to vote Harris anyways because I agreed with Bernie Sanders), I’m not Russian, or Israeli, or a fascist, or a communist, or a bot.

I’ve been online since the days of dial-up, and even places like 4chan had containment boards specifically set aside for jackasses. If you went to one of those you knew what you were getting into. Not that you wouldn’t find it on other boards, but the content elsewhere was mostly memes, life stories, cooking, vidya, shock content and so on. You could always find stupidity and hatred, but it’s way more common now in terms of # of people posting. With the removal of moderation Facebook is set to become the new /pol/ but sitewide.

It was directly related to the post above. “People should do this” -> “I actually just finished doing that.” It’s not like I came here to brag out of nowhere. Why are you ignoring that in favor of picking a fight?

Thanks for the heads up. I can see how that would happen. In my case I posted literally once or twice a year since 2020 or so, and the last time I talked to anyone other than family was 6 months ago. I have several dozen “friends” that will see the post, but leaving likely won’t affect much other than them being able to see photographs on FB/Instagram. Everyone I actually interact with knows other ways to contact me.

I wrote my deletion post just a few hours ago actually. Cited sexism, homophobia, anti-immigration, no more fact-checking etc. I said I’d leave the account up for a few days in case anyone wanted to arrange a way to stay in contact (since I’ve had friends there since 2007), but after that I’m gone.