this movement

Neoliberalism is not a “movement”, it’s the global hegemon. You’re pretending to be a part of this small, bespoke, counter-cultural collective that needs to remain principled, and meanwhile obstinately upholding the status quo. And at the same time holding this globe-spanning conspiracy theory that international conglomerates care about your personal feelings.

The data is out there, and you can just freely listen to scientists. But you will not read or listen, because they are saying things that you don’t like. Combatting climate change will require a great upheaval. It requires policies that liberal parties in major governments are not putting forward. People in the most vulnerable countries will die. But, again, you are more interested in protecting the status quo, most likely because you are comfortable and those more vulnerable don’t matter enough to you.

You are trying to frame this as if the people further to your left, who want to do more to combat climate change than you, are closer to the right. But that’s impossible. If it was up the right, all the countries with brown people in them will burn, and the wealthy countries will deny the immigrants. If it’s up to the centrists, all the countries with brown people in them will burn 20 years later, and the wealthy countries will deny the immigrants. I would very much not like to punish those most vulnerable in the long term for a feeling of moral superiority in the short term.

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No, they want you to keep voting for milquetoast centrist liberal policies that don’t hurt their bottom line. Car companies and oil companies love that the “left” party in the US only supports pro-car policies that maintain our reliance on them. Every polluting company absolutely loves the tax credit non-solution because it will cost them much less than an actual emissions-reducing solution. Plastic companies love that there is no widespread plastic ban or mandatory reduction in plastic use by manufacturers, and instead only consumer-aimed recycling programs.

Fossil fuel companies absolutely love your defeatist “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” attitude. They love these policies that make you feel like you are doing something but don’t actually change anything. They love when you tell people who want actual solutions that they need to vote for the compromise. They still get to keep their profits going strong, and the Earth will only burn after the people pushing these policies are long dead.

Liberals continue to confirm that the depth of their worldview is a flat, featureless line, with no prompting whatsoever. Thank you.

not letting perfection be the enemy of the good

The Earth catching on fire and all life on it ceasing to exist, but 1 year later, is not “good”.

If you think Biden is “good” on the environment, I suggest you read literally anything on Climate Change and see what scientists actually propose. Hint: Biden isn’t even talking about doing any of them, let alone doing them.

If Biden wins, climate activists will still lose. Milquetoast, middle of the road climate “action” from the Democratic party (and similar policies around the world) are why we have broken past every single warning sign that climate scientists have set.

The Kyoto Protocol did nothing, the Paris Agreement did nothing, emissions credits and electric cars (the only policies Biden is pushing) are objectively, scientifically not enough to even do America’s part in slowing down climate change. If you think sitting back, doing nothing, and voting for 1 of 2 parties that don’t take climate change seriously, once every 4 years, is going to save the world, I’ll see you in hell.

I think countries like Israel and the US enacting and enabling a genocide and constantly bombing countries in the middle east has “emboldened countries like Iran” (hmm, I wonder what you meant with that phrasing…). Israel just struck an Iranian embassy last week, and this is retaliation.

“There’s an argument” you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Can I pick something off Disk 2? It’s Bangers + Mash.

The lyrics, Thom’s crazed singing, the way the instruments drop out and back in throughout the verses, the stumbling overlapped drum patterns, the opposing guitars, 1 repetitive and monotonous and the other with a frantic riff…

If we’re talking on the album, it’s Jigsaw Falling into Place. Bodysnatchers, 15 Step, Weird Fishes, and House of Cards are all very close though.

Edit: Did you even read the article you linked? That is Trump telling Israel’s leader that he needs to stop attacking Palestinians. Do you think that’s bad?

I never said or implied that it would be. It won’t be different under Biden either. Which is my point.

Although there is a case to be made about Biden’s long history of gleefully jumping at every chance he gets to murder Arabs over his entire political career.

It’s the life of someone going about their existence, trying to enjoy a performance vs the lives of people who willingly signed up for a dangerous job to serve the world’s bloodiest empire.

Thinking you can do morality with numbers is sociopath behavior.

Do I hate the fact that centrists like Joe Liberman who literally killed universal healthcare in the US are revered and embraced by Biden’s party?

Joe Biden explicitly said he would veto any legislation involving universal healthcare. You oppose universal healthcare, but you’re hiding behind the spectre of “centrists”.

See what’s happening to the Palestinians now under Biden.

I’d rather just not vote for genocide.

Aside from the obvious, that will just be continuing to tell the two parties that nominating genocide supporters is good. You can continue telling your favorite party that you are okay with genocide, but I will not, thank you very much. This is why you are stuck between two genocide supporters. When your chosen party leaves you with a genocide supporter as your only choice, you tell them that’s good.

And you are not going to fight the genocide in any other way, so don’t pretend. Your chosen party is one of the two that ratified bills to make any attempts at boycotts or sanctions illegal.

Also, both candidates are fascists. Look at what’s happening on our Southern border, look at just our recent history in the Middle East, and look at the fascist government committing genocide that we are supporting.

You don’t fight fascism in the ballot box. Every single example in history teaches you that.

I will not be voting for anyone who supports a genocide. That will not change. Now there are two ways to change the outcome.

1. If you are a genocide supporter who wants to be elected, you could stop supporting genocide, and be vocal about it.
2. If you are someone who wants me to vote for your candidate, you could demand that they stop supporting genocide. Or demand that whatever party you like stops nominating people who support genocide.

I will not budge. Will you?