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  • Platomus@lemm.eetoAntiwork@lemmy.worldUnder capitalism
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    11 months ago

    There are 100% people that live under capitalism and don’t work, but don’t ever have to worry about starving.

    There are people who get unfairly given more profit than they work for.

    There are people who unfairly get less of the profits than they deserve.

    I’m saying it should be fairly distributed by the workers. You’re pretending it isn’t an issue.

    I’m explicitly saying he should not profit from the others labor. I’m explicitly saying they should be fairly compensated for their labor.


  • Platomus@lemm.eetoAntiwork@lemmy.worldUnder capitalism
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    No. If he’s still working beside them (like you said in your example), then his labor is making the value. He is entitled to that value.

    It’s impossible to “make” value from someone else’s labor. The person doing the labor created the value.

    Your example also isn’t them voluntarily working for him. You said in your example that it was either work for him or starve.

    If he’s not and he’s sitting doing nothing - creating no value - then he gets nothing.





  • No, Communism is a political ideology that focuses on giving the means of production to the people doing the labor.

    What you just said is the right-wing capitalist propaganda definition of communism.

    In the context of this conversation it is about removing the Capitalist from business. Making it so everyone earns their fair share of the profits instead of one person at the top (like a King/feudalism) gets all the profits, while also making all the decisions. Instead the laborors gets a stake in the business - giving more incentive to help the business do well while giving the worker more power and take home money.


  • Platomus@lemm.eetoAntiwork@lemmy.worldUnder capitalism
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    11 months ago

    I’m mean, come on man. You can’t be serious? You realize you’re in denial right? You have to realize it.

    It’s clearly right there. He clearly did what you asked. He clearly explained it to you.

    You keep making excuses. Trying to find ways to wiggle out of being wrong. When it is so plain as day, literally spelled out for you.

    Seek help man. Do some inward thinking. It’s impossible to have a discussion when you just deny what is in front of you.