Lemmy is odd. Its more tech aware then reddit yet some how just had ignorant and stupid as reddit on tech related matters.
I think it’s just anyone who actually understands or has a reasonable take don’t bother engaging with the stupid.
While the idiots open their mouths.
Proton ain’t perfect and yen is an idiot. But some one the claims I’ve seen about proton baffle me.
They’re basically trying to solve a problem that gaming has had for 20 years.
Low quality clones asset flips in cash grabs have always been a problem. It’s always been a problem on steam.
The issue is AI just makes it easier to do in faster to do so there’s more of them. It’s not a new problem though.
They have been trying to solve this problem for a decade. This isn’t a problem that’s likely actually solvable.
Cuz no matter what you do, you’re going to hurt legitimate devs far more than the cash. Grab guys the slop cloners.
You’re also going to knock out the slowly growing group of people who are using AI to make their little dream games but actually do it well.
There’s not a lot of them but they’re popping up on places like itch or just on GitHub pages.
I don’t envy valve the fact they’re even attempting to tackle while expected because it is their store is also genuinely commendable. Most companies would look at this go f*** that it ain’t worth the effort and then f*** off.
Honestly, the few times I’ve come across a good slop game. Day have been some of the best little indie games I’ve ever played.
AI has giving people who can design a good game. The ability to now also make those games by themselves.
Not everyone can be toby fox and do everything sadly.
The problem is those few games are made by people who made those games for themselves because they wanted to play them. Then they decided to share them but first and foremost they were still for the author.
Hey guys, just made it way too easy to put out s*** that you don’t want to play yourself in an attempt to make a quick buck. To share that’s always been a problem but it’s just gotten worse.
I really wouldn’t say few and far between is an accurate way to describe the problem before AI.
It kind of went from an uncontrollable flood to a literal tsunami. We went from like a 7 out of 10 on the. This is a problem scale to an 11 out of 10. It got worse. There is no f****** doubt about that. It got much much worse.
It was already an incredibly huge problem.
60/40 honestly.
Is everything that isn’t their own games? They do fantastically being fair about.
They’re more than happy to casino it up with their own s*** though.
No one’s perfect
Slopping asset flip and cash grab games have always been a problem. That’s nothing new. AI just made it easier to do.
This is a problem that’s existed for 20 years basically. AI has only just made it more of a problem. It’s not new.
If we could have solved this problem we already would have.
AI disclosure at a minimum I agree with wholeheartedly.
But basically every other solution everyone is throwing around is more or less just f****** stupid. Someone who legitimately makes a game for themselves. That is actually fun because they made it for the purpose of them themselves playing it. Even if they used nothing but AI is still probably going to be a better game than some half-assed cash grab or asset flip made by a legitimate human with no AI.
The problem isn’t AI. The problem is s***** people making s***** games with no integrity or intent to play their own creation.
If you want a fun game, you have to make a game you would play. How you enforce that is f****** beyond me though.
Yeah out of 100 vibe coded games. Iv come across like 3 that were legitimately good.
Those three where actually very very good games But they were tiny little things clearly made because the guy who made them WANTED to play them.
While the rest where just asset flips or clearly just attempting to make a cheap quick buck.
It’s just a great example of the problem. AI by itself doesn’t cause an issue. We already had this problem. Asset flips low-called a crash grabs have always been a thing.
Problem AI caused is now it’s a thousand times easier for literally every lazy f*** to do this.
Banning AI games should not happen. It is possible to make something legitimately fun and worthwhile playing with nothing but AI.
We need to solve the fact that every d****** can just s*** onto the steam store with no effort and leave something half built and abandoned.
Disclosure at a minimum. Better filtering harsher vote waiting.
My problem is every other idea I can think of unfairly smacks legitimate AI games or legitimate games that use AI as an actual proper tool as opposed to just a lazy way to asset flip.
Is not a lot of good ways to do this. To be fair, if there were we wouldn’t have asset flips in low quality cash crabs either.
Disgusting, awful, I hate it. It even took me a moment to realize.
Take your upvote. You earned it and disgust me.
):<
GNU Terry Pratchett
Oh don’t worry, as a white person I also come across this problem frequently.
It’s not just a problem that you need to be on the outside to see. It’s very visible inside the glass house too.
It’s a real fucking problem.
Well at least he’s a good boy?
i spend at least 2 hours a day fixing tags…
FIX YOUR TAGS PEOPLE. SO THE PEOPLE USING BLACKLISTS DONT HAVE TO SEE SHIT THEY DONT WANT TO SEE.
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The bronies do NOT fuck around.
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I dont know what magical humans you interact with. But the claim someone else doesn’t have a bias you may not be aware of… is fucking wild. People are wildly complex and the chances of you even REMOTELY understanding a fraction of their biases or thought processes with out extreme amounts of exposure and discussion with them is comical at best.
An LLM is infinitely more predictable and obvious in its biases then a human.
I will 100% agree on the people are less likely to just agree with you. Unless they really do not give a shit about the work at hand but then its really obvious.
But utilitarianism is a moral system. How can it be amoral…? Its by definition a moral system. You could put fort the argument that it can sometimes reach immoral conclusions, but calling it amoral is just… mixing things up at best and being disingenuous at worse.
I know right? Get a load of that guy. Nuance. psh, shaw. This is the internet! We only do extremes and horny posting round these parts!
But your a cyborg. Wouldn’t asking an AI just be like asking your pet dog to do a trick here?
Uhh… there is an entire sterotype of the sort of people that offload their thinking to others and have been made fun of for it for god… most of history?
The yes-man, lemming, weathervane, sheep, npc, doormat. The list goes on and on. Its been called a load of crap though the ages. But never thinking and just doing what your told or offloading your entire thinking load to others. IS VERY much a thing. LONG before ai.
It’s also less safe than proton from a legal from being German tho. So a major step down if that’s what you care about.