Could you provide a source for that claim?

SadArtemis already expanded on this well. Certainly Greco-Roman societies were well aware of Africa, even if not the extent of it. You might find Wikipedia’s early world maps page a good starting point.

“Third world” is Cold War framing, pitting the capitalist U.S. and allied countries (first world) against the USSR and allied countries (second world). The Third World referred to nonaligned Global South countries, which tended to be too crushed by the ongoing first world colonialism.

Denigrating the U.S. with implicit denigration to colonized countries based on its own colonialism feels a little off to us.

That doesn’t make it not ironic though, given the USA was founded on slavery

I understand why you might say that but I don’t think delineating between “socialism” = attempting to achieve communism the ideal and “communism” = the ideal is always a meaningful or necessary distinction.

I don’t think anyone here would have a problem if it said “(Bothering to even attempt reaching) communism doesn’t work” but that kind of thing just leads to leftist memes becoming unnecessarily long. I think all of us here know what the intent is, and that is to critique propaganda by capitalist states that AES or any movement outside capitalism towards something better is futile, when the reality is that they are doing everything they can, including that messaging itself, to supress it.

I don’t personally think there’s much value in doing the liberal word game thing about socialism and communism, especially when it’s obvious what is being referred to.

We could play that game that there’s only a capitalist mode of production and not such a thing as capitalism or that “true capitalism” has never been tried, but that would be ridiculous.

It’s worth pointing out explicitly that there’s no option that runs like:

1. Establish fully automated luxury gay space communism
2. ???
3. Profit

The anarchists talk about abolishing the state and hierarchies, but the theory isn’t very helpful if you don’t have a mechanism.

Evil genie: Granted. Capitalism never existed because society has remained in feudalism to this day.

Where did I defend the CCP or communism?

You’re a Lemmygrad user, they’re going to assume that’s your intent by default

Yes, but I’m talking about the word you obviously were referencing with this ad

Especially given that we already have anyways

Lemmygrad admin pointed out to me on !emoji@lemmygrad.ml that the origin of the term is sus, and it’s actually censored on Hexbear

The U.S. military is three nukes in a trench coat, change my mind

The Telegraph might as well be AI generated

Right, the point is whether a comparison is really valid and/or if something else would be more appropriate, not that they should never be used

@Kalkaline@leminal.space @immutable@lemm.ee @Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml

See the previous discussion on Hexbear just a week and a half ago: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5376884

• electoralism can’t work, voting won’t fix this
• voting for the democrats is bad

The first one is the case. In my opinion, some of our comrades could use a reminder that our focus doesn’t need to be on telling people who to vote for — that’s just more electoralism brainworms. (As comrade @darkernations@lemmygrad.ml pointed out, there are countries with functional democracies that don’t have this problem, but I’ll leave that part to other comrades and assume you’re US citizens who are eligible to vote in the state in which you reside.)

Vote for whoever you want. We’re just trying to explain that there’s a reason for the “most important election ever!!!1!!eleven” that keeps being pulled every election — the solution is not to be found in electoralism at all. It’s a tiny band-aid that will at best delay the rise of fascism, but will not actually solve the root problem.

I’m just fed up with the fact that I’m cis-gendered, I’m a white male

Are you fed up with being cis? Transition today!

wearing a pin of the SS

On second thought, I think was/were would be most fitting for you

audacity to be upfront about who they really are.

That’s the reason I think they might really have autism like they claim. Agree on the help — they should have had some long before they ever got to this point.

Finally a good use of the BBC filter

@Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net Which one are you?

The fuck are “levers of power”?

While Stalin was spooning the Ukrainians, Mao used the Levers of Power to take China and North Korea for the communists.

2030 should show Elon Musk coming up with some proposal to sabotage this bullet train proposal