Somehow I think everyone missed your joke…

I did just that… and now I spend the same amount of time browsing Lemmy on Firefox…

Though there was like 4 days where I cut down…

Hey, give me a little credit…

I’ve managed to misrepresent two sides of an argument in this one.

So if a cheater wins hard enough, it can be called “fair and square”? Not sure what specifics could get me on board with that.

Perhaps, but with all of the voter suppression and election rigging that has been done by the Republicans, can you really say he won “fair and square” at this point?

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“I am the one who must have been the wind!”

Your not wrong, though that kinda re-enforces my point. What would it take to convince a society to abandon an inherently unethical economic system?

This will be something of a unhelpful and unpopular answer, by you probably can’t.

What would convince you to stop eating meat from factory farms? What would convince you to only buy electronics from completely ethically sourced companies? What would convince you to only eat healthy nutritional food? To exercise regularly? So on and so forth?

There are many good and important, but inconvenient, things to do. But for most folks, the first step is wanting to. If he doesn’t, it will be an uphill battle.

Your last sentence gave me an idea.

Why don’t we put the Confederacy statues in something like an “American Slavery Museum”?

Its probably good to remember that these horrific ideas were once admired and honored, lest we become complacent. But putting them in the right context, i.e. next to evidence of the horrors wrought by their ideals, seems like the perfect place for them imho.

Edit: well, not every idea I have is a winner.

I wonder if people realize posts like this only push away potential converts?

Even if Centrists were as good as this post makes them out to be (which sadly they’re not), smugly asserting that everyone else is worse than you is a terrible method of persuasion.

Though I suppose the point is to feel morally and intellectually superior to people who would vote differently. Rather than to actually try to woo the most voters.

Edit: Fwiw, I believe the best option we have currently is to vote for the Democrats. I simply don’t see an alternative option that is as likely to keep Trump out of the Whitehouse again. Though damage mitigation is not my favorite strategy to employ, in this case I believe it is the “strongest” play available.

I dunno Yogi. I get that you are cool with jokes about trump and religion, but you immediately came to the defense of “dark humor” mfers. Seems like even you have your sacred cows.

naw man, I’m just fucking with you. I knew what you meant.

Dark humor mfers: “Everything is fair to joke about, race, gender, orientation, disabilities, everything”

Someone: makes joke about dark humor mfers

Dark humor mfers: “Now you’ve gone too far!”

I initially assumed this was unpopular because “just wipe the knives off…” and “why sharpen them at all?”. Boy am I surprised.

Well, disingenuous questions are usually meant to derail the topic at hand by forcing you to address a topic you haven’t prepared for. In such cases, I would put the burden of explaination on the person who asked, perhaps with some equally unanswerable questions.

“What about them? Do you expect they will be able to farm better in a desert? Is helping them through climate change initiatives more difficult than surviving climate catastrophe?” etc. etc. ad neaseaum.

Who could stay away from Zion? It’s a lovely national park and the folks I meet there are usually very nice!

Better to look the fool than open your mouth and prove everyone right

No! Always make assumptions! They make conversations faster!

$150 billion out of $1.7 trillion…

A 40% reduction in emissions that we are no where near on track to meet.

Income inequality down for the first time since '07, largely due to the middle class wealth stagnating. The ultra wealthy increased their wealth the fastest of all groups.

I’m more invested in not sending weapons to Israel tbh. And this isn’t even picking apart the mass amount of issues both political parties align on or simply ignore.

I’m voting for Kamala. I’m super stoked that Biden dropped out. I believe Trump would be worse on all of these fronts, and I think Kamala has a better chance to win.

But a lot of people are still rightly disappointed in the Democrats, and to write us all off as Corporate shills and Tankies is alienating a group that you probably agree with on many levels.