Sword_of_Eos [she/her]

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I’m a time traveler from the 20th century

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  • Judaism and Zionism are separate, and not all Jews are Zionists. There’s a great anti-Zionist community of Jews on reddit that I remember from before I left.

    But in the media and the wider internet, I usually see “we have got to separate Judaism from Zionism and stop making all Jews responsible for Israel” deployed to disguise the nature of lone-wolf destructive acts of resistance against Zionist institutions that are synagogues. When a Zionist synagogue is graffiti’d or even attacked, separating Judaism from Zionism is the immediate brainless media reply and no one bothers to investigate whether the synagogue was sending money to the IDF or hosting West Bank land sales. In the media and parroted by the general discourse, the Zionist synagogue becomes just a synagogue free of all context, and therefore the graffiti or attack can only be an antisemitic hate crime. This comes even from nominally leftist libs like Hasan when he goes to the wider media to try to prove he isn’t an antisemite, which is what prompted the original discussion.

    So I could definitely have been more specific about what I meant to avoid confusion, that’s on me. I meant that it’s not useful to belabor the separation between Judaism and Zionism when discussing about anti-Zionist actions and we should not use it to police anti-Zionism. However unfortunately that also means we need to critically scrutinize media reports of antisemitic hate crimes at Jewish institutions that may actually be anti-Zionist actions. I definitely didn’t mean to say that we should be conflating Judaism and Zionism, or that we shouldn’t be on the watch for genuine antisemitism to fester out of hatred of Israel’s actions.

    I realize now in saying this that this is tough because I’m grappling with a contradiction: we shouldn’t be policing anti-Zionism and feeding the conflation of anti-Zionism with antisemitism, and yet we can’t let antisemitism fester in our spaces so language and attitudes need to be scrutinized. I don’t know what a synthesis looks like yet.



  • The whole argument about whether or not the Zionist entity is white supremacist or jewish supremacist seems pointless to me. Neither ideology is the cause of the genocide, which is caused by material relationships and conditions. What material condition? European settler-colonialism. So in one way I strongly agree that crying about “jewish supremacy” and focusing on the jewish character of Israel is stupid because it accomplishes nothing but signaling to antisemites that we share common ground, which we do not. But in another way, whining that Judaism is separate and distinct from Zionism, and most Zionists aren’t jewish and so on, is centering jewish feelings and crybully behavior that protects Zionist jewish institutions and people from anti-Zionism. There are many jewish institutions in the US and more in the UK that are linked to and materially support the Zionist entity and we can’t be whining about needing to protect them from anti-Zionism.

    The synthesis is probably to not worry about whether streamers or youtubers (the source of the argument was Hasan slop) are conflating Zionism with Judaism or centering jewish feelings and to organize with anti-Zionist jews against Zionist institutions, but I know it’s annoying to yell “stop listening to streamers and do materialist analysis”