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also, their parliament building is on fire rn

I’ve started to enjoy people saying “Israel is doing its best to protect civilians” because I have the perfect way to deal with it…

“Yes, that might be true that they’re making attempts to protect civilians and are just really incompetent at it like they claim. It raises the question, should the international community gives them ‘points for trying’ – what do you think?”

B.I.T.

lol how could they all go down at the same time

Pretending not to notice that fat people are fat is unique to Western culture.

Nobody in Africa would see a problem with this. I bet Asia is the same.

Thanks

I’m not making a prescriptive statement. I’m telling you how things are and not how they should be.

Yeah, no. I disagree. What I’ve been hammering on is that a territorial claim is NOT objective, but rather prescribed by human institutions. If you don’t agree, that’s fine. But the fact remains: there’s no objective fact that determines whether Corsica belongs to France or itself: only human opinions. I can’t make the point any more thoroughly than I already have.

I have a question for you: do you think that the people of Tibet would be materially better off if they had been turned into an anti-China proxy by the imperialists like Ukraine is now for Russia?

I don’t know.

how do you know that Tibetans actually want that?

I don’t know what Tibetans want, much less the Tibetans living in 1950. There’s a few particularly vocal ones of course on both sides, but I don’t have good information on the various opinions that exist their and their prevalence.

There’s lots of irredentist claims in every part of the world.

It’s not a tenable claim to say the irredentist claim is valid just because it exists.

It’s not a tenable claim to say the irredentist claim is valid just because the majority/big country supports it. By that logic no small country could ever become independent of a big one.

Tibet was separate from China before 1720. Then it was in China 1720-1912 (198 years). Then it was independent 1912-1950 (38 years). Saying “Well it actually is China” is just asserting a claim, no more.

Should Mongolia also be absorbed into China?

Thanks for the links

justified by "slavery existed in Tibet"

That was indeed not the primary reason why the PLA first entered Tibet. It was rather to preserve the territorial integrity and safeguard the sovereignty of China, of which Tibet was and is recognized as an integral part.

by that logic any country with slavery [...] deserves to be invaded

Tibet was not and is not a country.

Hmmm… this makes it sound worse not better. Counties do not have ontological existence outside human opinion. Is Catalonia an integral part of Spain? Is Ireland an integral part of the Union? Is Ukraine an integral part of Russia? These positions have all been claimed by belligerents at various times.

You say it “was recognized” as China, but by whom? It is actually/ontologically part of China can never be a good justification, because countries don’t have that sort of objective ontology.

In the Qing Dynasty, Mongolia was part of China. Debates on whether Xinjiang/Manchuria/Tibet are “really” part of China have gone on for centuries, and can’t be settled by expressing an opinion on it.

Thanks. I found this article saying something similar: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism

Going offline now. Take care.

Of course the “people of Tibet” would not be rejoicing at the PLA operation; as those people were part of the 5% of the population that owned the other 95% as slaves. I’m sure that the 95% were distraught they were no longer enslaved against their will.

Were there that many slaves?

Also Haiti didn’t have slavery because they themselves wanted it.

Sorry. I was unclear. I was talking about restavèk, which pretty much is “baked into their culture”, or is part of it at least.

I guess the issue here is I don’t really know what sort of economy/structure was in place before 1950, or what motivated the Chinese involvement.

I’m a bit of a dissenter among Hexbear on this maybe.

I’m not convinced the Tibetan people supported the invasion.

I hear it being justified by “slavery existed in Tibet”, but by that logic any country with slavery (e.g. Mauritania, Haïti) deserves to be invaded. It sounds like a post hoc smear. I don’t think the motivation was to free the slaves.

Willing to read books/papers with a more hexbearian perspective, I’m not basing my opinion on very much research I’m happy to admit.

Who came up with the name “Feddit” for federated Reddit?

Everybody. Everybody who thinks of the concept of federated reddit instantly comes up with the name feddit

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Can I learn about it in general or is it per country thing I don’t know.

It’s a per country thing. What country are you in?

The “two war doctrine” is a thing there.

Cars are stupid use crabs instead