krakhead [none/use name]

I really appreciate you replying to me in such detail.

Jaime is not going to SA cersei, undo all of his character growth and then die lovingly in Cersei’s arms, no. This is a ridiculous and stupid undoing of his character arc. He may actually murder Cersei himself to fulfill the Valonqar prophecy (the prophecy Cersei had about being strangled by her little brother, she always assumed it to be Tyrion but she’s the elder twin).

Dany will also not go mad and burn the smallfolk and be murderered by Jon. That is also ridiculous.

Jon’s story will also be much different

This is enough for me. I just quickly glazed over the rest of your reply without paying too much attention to it but only because I don’t wanna be too spoiled for the books 😭.

Man, this takes me back to when I was so locked in on the show when s6 aired that I was looking up fan theories and just consuming all of that kind of content. Azor Ahai, TPTWP, Night King… fun times. Nothing has come close to that for me ever since, except maybe wheel of time a little bit. But WoT has it’s flaws.

You just convinced a jaded GoT fanboi to get into the books, incompleteness notwithstanding. Thanks!

PS. Would love any recommendations for stories that are of the same quality as ASOIAF in your opinion.

It’s honestly an absurd masterpiece already even unfinished

Till season 6 of the show I too was of the same opinion. Just imagining how amazing all the storylines could potentially turn out would get me sooo hyped. I’ve read many fantasy books and shows, with Wheel of Time being my favorite rn (tied with Curse of the Chalion by Lois McMaster Bujold) but this is after I watched GoT die in the last 2 seasons. If you asked me at S6, it would be my favorite series ever. So I’m excited to feel that hype again with the books if what you’re saying is true.

Btw, do you think Dany’s and Jaime’s arcs (others as well) in the show are how the books are projected to have them turn out as well? Cuz I remember hearing that D&D got the bullet points about the ending and character arcs from GRRM himself. Is that true or is GRRM’s vision for the arcs and the ending really different from what the show gave us?

You’re reigniting the love I had for the series before season 7 and 8. Where I saw all the character arcs being butchered (hints were prolly there earlier but I started picking the up in the later seasons) and thought it’s how GRRM too wanted the arcs to end. I used to live and breathe everything GoT. Jaime was the one I was most pissed off about. If what you’re saying is true, I’m itching to get into the books to get a feel for how GRRM actually wrote the characters so that I can overwrite the stupidity from the show, even though the books are not finished. What do you think?

What the heck, I didn’t know this about ASOIAF. I just thought GRRM just likes to torture and kill the good people while the bad people stay winning and when they start losing, it’s not even a satisfying win for the good guy. Just an underwhelming Pyrrhic victory. ALWAYS subverting expectations with an unsatisfying route to the conclusion. Character arcs that end up fizzling out or completely reversed. This is based on what I read about GRRM giving D&D notes on the final two seasons. AKOTSK I though was GRRM throwing a bone to the people about a miniscule case of “good people” somewhat winning. So was my reading of ASOIAF based on the show completely wrong?