Huh. Really? How is the LLM checking it? Is it writing code to check those specs, or are you just along it directly if the code matches the specs?

Absolutely agree, hence my link to the Luddite wikipedia page elsewhere in the thread.

Currently, LLMs are being used as a tool of the rich to gain more control over broader society.

I’m not trying to police individuals. Linus is acting as a spokesperson and leader of a major organisation, I’m only interested in what he does in that capacity.

For sure, there’s a cat’s-out-of-the-bag element. But that doesn’t give those of us with more ethics an excuse to act as if we don’t have them.

Who developed it: no, probably not that much. Who is selling it/pushing it, absolutely. And users also inherently interact with those social and political structures, e.g. through working within a capitalist organisation (as most of us do), and influencing it’s evolution (as most of us do, though often unintentionally)

Possibly. It would be sad and maybe a little surprising (but not that much). I’ve certainly never seen anything that contradicts that…

Obviously there is a spectrum between sewing needles and nuclear weapons… But I think it’s clear that even e.g. stone axes have had meaningful impacts on the structure of society and also on politics as a subset of that (e.g. their use had implications for power relationships, perhaps as a weapon, perhaps as a way to increase socioeconomic status, etc.)

What I would like to see is a LLM that’s developed … with FULL traceability to sources uses,

That’s not really possible. I mean, you can list the training data, but you can’t attribute a specific output to a specific piece of training data, because all of the training data influences all of the weights. It’s not possible to know which training data influenced which weights and how, because that data is not retained (and it would be massive and difficult to interpret if it was -on the order of weights × number of training context windows, and the weights alone are already terabytes)

Why is it an entirely different conversation? Or rather, why do you think that this conversation is not what the AI-opposition are concerned about? (At least some of us are)

By analogy, many of us leaped in to social media 20 years ago. 15+ years later, there was wide recognition that the new technology brought with it a shitload of undesirable outcomes that were completely unpredictable at the outset. The same can be said of fossil fuel use, as well as factory automation. Why would you not take lessons from those? Especially given what you know about the arseholes running the GenAI companies?

even identify code that doesn’t follow coding guidelines.

Code linters have existed for decades, that doesn’t require LLMs

Technology use does though, and technology without use is… Nothing?

A tool cannot in and of itself be political.

I disagree, and I’m not alone: https://gomakethings.com/articles/all-tech-is-political/

You should read up on thr Luddites, because you’re mischaracterising them. They weren’t anti technology, they were anti capitalist.

IMO, this is the think Linus is missing - the shit has massive political implications in multiple dimensions (it’s being built by fascists and capitalists bent on control of broader business, government, and social systems) and he’s just treating it as if it’s as politically agnostic as a screwdriver.

every successful entrepreneur in the country will leave and take their money with them.

… fine?

Starlink needs to be nationalised… Or … Um… UNised?

Isn’t fact they are having a hard time offloading that debt an indication that other investors are shying away from it because they see the data centre risk?

Given the context, I’m choosing to believe OP was making a subtle and excellent joke

This is much funnier to read than to hear

You might be surprised. I know a few activists who refuse to vote because the system is bad (they’re not wrong in their analysis, but I think they come to a useless conclusion).

There’s a lot of people that think that voting is enough. It’s not, especially when you have a two party system where both parties are on the bad side of many issues.

Vote AND do other stuff.

If by US left you mean the DNC, it seems more like they have their feet on both the brake and the accelerator, and they don’t know which gear they are in [they are in reverse]. They are trying to figure out which pedal to lift first.