have fun

since I can’t prove a negative, bring me a study and I’ll show it either doesn’t support your claim, or it has a limited scope, or flawed methodology.

I’m maintaining the same standard I have from the beginning.

your accusation of moving the goal post is unfounded.

i couldn’t find your second comment. the link breaks on my side. the first one is from cowbee, who definitely didn’t disappear and who is still quite active on this topic. the last one is from someone who disappeared BEFORE the election, so also does not fit yourcriteria

you are grasping at straws. instead of tilting at windmills, why don’t you criticize trump, as you expect leftists not to criticize the democrats?

edit:

those comments were made after the election and things did change. they are not evidence those positions were held prior to the election. you’re just wrong

which is far a field from where this discussion started, because someone is moving the goalposts.

your sarcasm doesn’t prove the fictional people you are lambasting ever existed, either.

I can’t speak for others. I was hoping their candidate would back off of supporting Israel and their sitting president would follow suit. it didn’t happen so I don’t know why you’d think I or anyone else would be pleased, or think it worked, or that that Democrats aren’t responsible for their own failures

it’s also met my theory, or anyone else’s. it’s a charicature made up by democrat party apologists. it’s a strawman.

It is often modeled quite well with game theory.

no, it’s not

they can’t know what we will buy before they make it. they manufactur on speculation.

I don’t really feel like a protracted exchange where you move goalposts around

this accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith

your theory and how pleased you are, now that it’s succeeded

you’re putting word in my mouth.

Nobody is making up the crowd that pretended only Democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse.

yes they are, and if that weren’t the case you would have been able to show it

The comment that started this accusation said:

Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…

which prompted the response:

Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …

and a furth explanation:

There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse

to which i said:

you’re making that up.

and the rest of the thread has been bickering about whether, in fact, they made that up. the accusation is that, since the election, the people opposed to genocide who wanted to exert electoral pressure, who were also people who were pretending only democrats could have responsibility AND that trump could not be worse, have since disappeared. i know that’s a lot of commas. lets make this a bit clearer:

the accusation is that

there are people who

• (a)oppose genocide
• (b)wanted to exert electoral pressure on the democrats
• ©were pretending only democrats could have responsibility
• (d)believed that trump could not be worse

and that those people

• (e)disappeared after the election.

what you provided was evidence that, in fact, those people don’t exist, and to the extent that people who met criteria a-c may have existed (it’s still not clear they held this belief prior to the election), they did not, also fulfill criteria (e).

so despite your aptitude for verbosity and markdown syntax, your comment is, also, not evidence.

edit: i made a few syntactic edits to this, but as i’m now reading it for the 12th time or so, i don’t actually think we have evidence of anyone fulfilling criteria c in addition to a and b.

game theory doesn’t determine human behavior or elections, which depend on human behavior

then it should be easy to find your evidence.

I can’t possibly prove something doesn’t exist. You’re claiming there is evidence that something does exist, it’s on you to provide that evidence.

if it was so easy, you would do it and support your own claims. this is not evidence, it’s hand waving.

can you show me?