If there’s any silver lining to this authoritarian power grab, it’s that people are finally waking the fuck up and getting really mad. Not everyone, mind you. But hopefully many more than historically, and hopefully enough who will take action.
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Depends. How recently did most of the population wake up to the fact that they’re getting a raw deal?
Exactly. Resistance movements take work and time. Or were you expecting instant results with zero time investment?
I think we can do better than that, too.
Maybe try again, this time with a different org? The big secret about “organizing” is that it’s often not very organized.
Do you think an organized group of people physically protecting a Grandma from state violence is any less effective in radicalizing people?
Yes. As soon as ICE blood starts spilling onto the streets, you lose the normies real quick. And then the bad guys have justification (in the eyes of some) in hitting back even harder.
Do you think people want to go out and protest when they are surrounded by other people that will stand by and do nothing when they get grabbed?
Ehh I never said do nothing. There’s quite a large gulf between “de-arrest” / “put cones over pepper bombs” and “shooting people”. I do think most people don’t want to go out and protest if it’s really “go out and engage in armed conflict with the state.”
Do you think people want to go out and protest when they are surrounded by other people that will stand by and do nothing when they get grabbed?
You’re conflating violence with resistance. The two are not the same. One could argue one is a subset of the other.
Standing by and doing nothing
Again, that’s not what I’m advocating.
Showing people what organized physical resistance actually looks like gives people that are already on the streets hope and solidarity. I know. I’ve experienced it.
I’m curious. If you don’t mind sharing, where/how did you experience this? What was the resistance?
To be clear, I’m not calling you a doomer for whistleblowing. I’m calling you a doomer for the “there really is just nothing we can do” sentiment. But honestly, I think you and I both can do better than giving in to nihilism.
When ICE commits violence against the unarmed grandma in the chicken suit, they radicalize ten more grandmas—and solidify the position of the normies against ICE.
And anyone who shows up to a protest is making their own risk assessment. Some protests are the strollers and marches type, and that’s a pretty low risk level. Some protests are spicier, and they tend to draw a different crowd with a different risk tolerance.
And yes, I’m saying we should remain non-violent in the face of ICE’s atrocities, because that is the best tactic for gaining and retaining the wide-spread support necessary to defeat them.
I think the part you’re missing is what that support gets us. When there’s wide-spread support for those opposing ICE, that gives us more of an ability (and the people power) to attack the pillars of support that prop up the authoritarian regime.
I mean, we need a nationwide action plan, and that doesn’t happen locally.
It actually can start locally. Let’s say, for instance, Chicago starts a single-day citywide strike. That demonstrates to other cities that it can be done; it bridges the imagination gap. Then maybe we have multiple cities in the midwest start striking. And perhaps soon, the east coast. And it spreads from there.
They really is just nothing we can do as citizens at this point. Get out if you can, or buy a gun.
Okay doomer. 😄
But seriously, I encourage you not to give up this early in the “game.” If you do, you are complicit with the authoritarians. Find your local people doing resistance work. Resist alongside them. Don’t give up hope.
Sorry, where does that say pro-Democrat, pro-Israel, pro-cop, or anti-trans? Working with cops to further the shared goal of non-violence for this event doesn’t mean one supports the system of policing. That’s like saying by voting, you support the system of first-past-the-post.
My point is that protesting and organizing—you know, getting out into the real world and connecting with real people—is how you get to a shutdown of the system. Strikes don’t get organized on social media.
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With respect, you don’t seem to understand how strikes happen. Strikes can only occur with organization and planning… People need to eat, they need to be assured that if they strike, everyone else will too, etc. And one way to kickstart that organization is to get folks together at a big protest to recruit them to the strike organizing cause.
Did you join your local resistance organizations who were recruiting at the protest, so you could continue the fight?
Thank you for encouragement rather than disdain. I mean it.
Uhh citation needed. Nobody I know working on No Kings locally is pro-Democrat, pro-Israel, pro-cop, or anti-trans. I also don’t know of any leftists who had the cops called on them at a No Kings protest.
Also, they’re not drug dealers.