Look at the lines of Military families having to stand in line to receive food. Federal workers and the military aren’t getting paid because of the MAGA shutdown which happened because Republicans are afraid the Epstein files will get released.
Look at the lines of Military families having to stand in line to receive food. Federal workers and the military aren’t getting paid because of the MAGA shutdown which happened because Republicans are afraid the Epstein files will get released.
You saw my previous two posts: stick with an assumption that they joined over some logic that’s actually defensible like a sense of patriotism; and point out that they can still act on the duty they agreed to.
That oath carries a lot of weight for some of them. So far, not enough weight to spur them into action, but calling them murderers isn’t going to move any of them toward the introspection and reflection on their actual duties that we need from them right now.
Best of luck with the emigration, cuz, yeah fuck this place.
The oath… to protect against antifa? The vague threat? Cause that’s what it’s gonna be sold to them as. How many bodies does it take for the military to do what they should? In my opinion, we have already passed that point… I feel everybody has chosen their sides.
I think it’s probably best that I don’t speak to some mentally ill jarhead. I’m liable to get shot— which would not surprise me in the least.
…dude, what’s your goal here? Why would YOU want to spin antifa as a domestic threat? I don’t actually need to tell you it’s the ‘fa’ part that’s the domestic threat, you know that already… right? You’re spitting out Fox news talking points like they’re some kind of inevitability that we all just need to bend over and take.
Fuck that.
You don’t need to lead the charge against the bullshit happening in this country, but if all you’ve got to offer is defeatist whining, then maybe keep that shit to yourself?
You’re not listening. You want dopamine. Read it back knowing you got it wrong and we can pick it up if you figure it out.
I’m listening, but I’m definitely not understanding what you’re trying to accomplish, unless you’re some kind of accelerationist who thinks all that’s left to do is give up and let the Nazis win… to which I disagree.
We all want dopamine - that’s how our brains work. And 100% I’m looking forward to the bolus that’ll be administered if and when we finally get some justice for Trump’s crimes. Are you not looking forward to that same hit?
I’ve gotten a shit ton wrong - even my second sentence in this thread acknowledged that. I learn from it and do better. And that’s where I see potential in our active duty military: they’re just as capable of acknowledging they fucked up, learning from it, and doing better. Can I expect the same from you?
The oath they are protecting is vague. The definition of the enemy could be described to them as “antifa.” I’m not trying to summon the Fox News Demon or anything.
But let’s pretend they don’t fall for the bullshit.
If enough isn’t enough now, when will it be? I have strong doubts we will never see any assistance from the military.
So it’s vague and has some potential to be applied malevolently… so what? It’s also vague and has some potential to be applied beneficently. Again, leverage that.
You could do a lot of damage with a screwdriver if you picked it up and stabbed it into your abdomen… that potential doesn’t mean you should avoid screwdrivers, it means you shouldn’t use them that specific way. They have a lot of potential to be used for something constructive, too.
When is enough enough? You want my opinion? Very early into Trump’s first presidency… but I’m not the one we need to convince. I share your doubts, but acting on them is self-defeating.
Look instead for the potential to do good - not just in this specific situation, but in general - act on that. Doesn’t always work. That’s fine. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
“So what?”
It could be used for good, it could be used for bad, who cares right?
Well, I care. And you have failed to convince me that the military contains good people Who will choose the citizens over the benefits they get from being in the military and the punishment that will happen if they refuse to obey.
I will double down on my opinion.
You’re not acting like you care. And you’re not responding to what I posted: so what if it can be used for bad - it can be used for good, so do that.
Literally anything can be used for good or bad: if any potential for misuse is a deal breaker for you, then wtf are you doing here on the Internet?
We have a lot of tools at our disposal. Use them to nudge the world closer to one you’d actually want to live in. Don’t shy away from the screwdriver just because it can be used as a weapon.
Your opinion is only helping the Trump regime. I’ll ask again, what’s your goal here? Cuz you’re pushing for people to give up. If that’s not what you’re after, maybe take some time for some introspection of your own. Or, if convincing people to just give up is your goal, then you are a traitor right in rank with the MAGA dipshits that landed us in this mess in the first place.