• devedeset@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Some of these products already exist. They are expensive. If you go back and look at the long-lasting appliances of the past, they were also expensive.

    One example is Speed Queen washers/dryers. Also Bosch dishwashers.

    • elucubra@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      8 hours ago

      Many of these become enshittified. Bosh is an example. My sister kitted out her kitchen with many Bosch appliances when she renovated, like 10 years ago. All have had issues.

      The fridge has peeling faux chrome handles, the microwave button/wheel/control had to be replaced, the washer had the drum bearing fail, and the drum housing is sealed, so you have to replace the whole drum assembly, which costs as much as an entire budget washer…

  • funkyfarmington@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    11 hours ago

    And I will sell it in a store called “in stock” because we have these things called “computers” that can reorder a product once one sells so the shelves aren’t empty. Because American companies have never heard of that concept.

  • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    13 hours ago

    I’ve been thinking about this for a while now, how I just want a basic removed electric car. No centre console, no futuristic screens, no sensors, no cameras. Give me a normal fucking car with dials, a speedo, some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears and no driver assist. Sell it to me for cheap and let me drive my car. That’s all I want.

    • InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I haven’t seen speedometer shortened to speedo before. I was wondering why you wanted to get a speedo (like swimwear) along with the rest of your normal car accessories.

    • ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 hours ago

      some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears

      What? The foot pedal adjusts power. You don’t need a replacement for gears.

      • devedeset@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 hours ago

        I would very much like a manner to manually adjust how hard the regenerative coasting works, which would sort of be a replacement for gears. If I’m going down a steep hill I’d like to be able to adjust the regen to maximize energy recovery while also managing vehicle speed.

        • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 hour ago

          I recently bought an ebike that has peddle assist settings of 1-5. With 1 being lowest and 5 being maximum. These settings essentially act like gears setting the maximum motor power.

          In crowded areas I set the speed to 1 so the bike can’t exceed 15kph, on open roads I set the speed to 5 which is unlimited. I would definitely want this in a car.

  • masterspace@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    13 hours ago

    The problem is that you think that would make the ‘just’ products cheaper. The reality is that the data and advertising subsidize the costs of the existing options and make them cheaper then what ‘just’ could sell for.

    • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      11 hours ago

      Case in point: Smeg already does this, and all their products are considered upmarket. They’re just really solid normal appliances.

    • ThunderComplex@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 hours ago

      That isn’t true anymore nowadays. You pay the full un-subsidized price AND get your data sold and ads displayed

      • masterspace@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 hours ago

        Only if there’s a lack of competition in that market. For most devices, you’re just flat out wrong.

        • ThunderComplex@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 hours ago

          Damn that $2_000 fridge must be super awesome for it to have no competition. That explains the ads on it.
          No, you’re wrong. You pay more and still get shafted. I’m not saying that all products are like that, but the number of products that still show you ads and gobble your data while also becoming prohibitively expensive is ever increasing.
          We’re in that nice transition phase where you can spend $200 or $3000 on a TV but your privacy is gone either way.

    • devedeset@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I’m never going to buy a fridge with a tablet embedded in it, but I don’t really think they are making that much money from that. You can buy cheaper equivalent versions of appliances that don’t have the ability to display ads or collect/send data anywhere.

  • Psythik@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    22 hours ago

    The Sims did it first, except the brand was called “Justa”. Justa dishwasher. Justa fridge.

      • BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        12 hours ago

        People always call me crazy but I buy commercial displays. You can get them cheaper if you do it the right way. So speakers, no tuner, no smart functions, usually only 1 or 2 inputs, and basically no bells or whistles.

        But that’s how I like it, so I don’t care if it makes me 🤣😧🤣😧

      • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        18 hours ago

        There might be some liability concerns if you run a open source firmware on your washing machine and it decides to never shut off the water inlet…

  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    22 hours ago

    He’ll be out of business in a years time!

    Seriously a great idea though. I’d buy all their stuff.

      • AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        19 hours ago

        Since it would make small quantities (at least at the start) and with better materials, I bet it would be also more expensive so maybe it evens out.

        I would also buy it, I’m tired of household items that randomly break and the manufacturer doesn’t care.

    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Murdered. Killed. Assassinated. Victim of criminal homicide. Flayed alive. Burned at the stake. Killed, raped, boiled alive, his house and family burned down in arson and pedophilic murder.

      We do not need to use the word “unalived.”

  • FatVegan@leminal.space
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    That’s like Ali G saying he invented the PlayStation 2 because he thought about it when the playstation came out.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      I was annoyed as a kid when I independently came up with the idea of a flying car then found out that the world beat me to it.

      • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        20 hours ago

        That happened to me a few years back, a friend just had his clutch fail in his car. I started thinking how to make a better way to transfer power from motor to wheels.

        Turns out I just reinvented the fluid coupling used in automatic transmissions…needless to say my idea wasn’t that impressive after that.

        • FatVegan@leminal.space
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 hours ago

          Before electric skateboards were a thing, and electric motors and batteries became better and better, i thought I had a great idea for an electric skateboard. I cut some holes into my longboard, attached an upside down truck on top and an electric motor, made a lot of mistakes and then someone launched an electric skateboard that was pretty slick and i just saw that and thought: that’s way better.

        • musubibreakfast@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          19 hours ago

          My million dollar idea is an add-on for your device that kicks every billionaire on the planet in the nut sack every time someone teleports.

        • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          20 hours ago

          Find identical twins, dress em the same, have one walk into a cardboard box with “teleporter” written on it by a child, and have the other twin come out another similar cardboard box.

          • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            12 hours ago

            Eh. You are a piece of software running on meat. Every night, there are long periods where ‘you’, the conscious entity of your awareness, ceases to exist. You only dream for a small portion of the night. There are times when you are simply gone.

            Yet we have no problem accepting this fact. We’ve just collectively accepted that there is some continuity of consciousness between each day. But it couldn’t be further from the truth. You have the memories of yesterday, but ‘you’ have not been in continued conscious existence since yesterday. In a very real sense, we are a series of single-day lifetimes stitched together across time.

            If you’ve ever gone under anesthesia, it’s even more jarring. When you’re under, you’re not asleep. You’re not dreaming. You’re just gone. The time passes in an instant.

            If my consciousness can be discontinuous through time, why can’t it be discontinuous through space? If I can believe that I am the same me as the mes of yesterday and tomorrow, why can I not believe that a remotely assembled copy of me is also me? I used to run on that meat, now I run on this meat. It’s all me in the end.

            • Zink@programming.dev
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 hour ago

              Yeah and to take what you were describing further, we can’t ever really be sure our lives existed at all. If the universe was created in its current state 5 minutes ago, we would have no way to know.

              But anyway, the ease of accepting one’s own continuity from day to day is part of the teleporter problem. It’s at the heart of it, honestly. I think it’s a given that the copy of you that comes out the other side will believe that they are the original you and will assume your identity and life without skipping a beat.

              The concern is the likelihood that you experience a quick death by being vaporized while the copy of you experiences the “created 5 minutes ago in current state with memories intact and can’t prove otherwise” phenomenon.

              I’ll also add that as far as we can tell, our conscious minds are emergent properties of our physical brains. Losing consciousness while verifiably keeping your brain in a specific spot is quite a bit different than disassembling your physical brain and reassembling it somewhere else.

              If we instead had evidence that our souls/identities existed on some other plane and our brains were more like antennas, I might think differently.

  • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    Similar to my idea called to make a clothing brand called “brandless”

    No logo, no graphics, no distinguished designs

    Just plain basic clothes in basic colors, using fabrics that last.

    No itchy washing label either. All product information in detail available on site. At most a product number printed or sown on the inside.

  • mlg@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    50/50 chance it sells at a premium compared to other models, making the entire idea useless

    Source: Like every project that pretended to do this with their respective market

    Why the hell is a light phone more expensive than a mid to high range model smartphone. I’d rather just buy that and swap the ROM if I want to remove google.

      • mlg@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Yeah I know my sample size is pretty useless, but this was just a dumb excuse to complain about light phone because even SMB manufacturing cost wise, it should be almost comically cheap to produce.

        There are lots of other hardware accessories in the same range that cost much less to buy as a consumer, that are produced by more expensive vendors.

        • Zannsolo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          Yeah but what is the volume they are selling and are they profiting from user data both of those things have a significant impact on price.