They clarified, the silicon is off-the-shelf and the firmware is modified. It doesn’t have some “special processor” or anything.
It has everything to do with heat and noise.
What? It being small only means the heat has less room to be removed, so it needs a higher power fan (or thermal throttling). It does have something to do with heat and noise, in that smaller is worse for them. If it’s quite or cool, that’s despite the size, not because of it.
I don’t care to argue about this, but you’re making unfounded claims that this device is somehow special, because it’s made by Valve I guess, and they need to be worshiped? It seems like a nice kit, but it isn’t particularly groundbreaking. It’s just a well designed and put together computer. Most of what it does is the same as any other computer, running Linux/Arch is capable of.
Being custom allows it to be both small and quiet. Find me another PC in this size, with this much power, that’s as quiet. You can’t.
We don’t know how quite this will be! Even the ones that were shown aren’t necessarily final. Again, you’re making claims without any evidence. I can’t show you something as quite as small, because we don’t know how quite it’ll be. To show you it isn’t anything crazy though, there are fanless PCs that you can get. As powerful? No. As quite? Even more. It’s a trade off. It isn’t magic. If you do something custom you could get even quieter with more power. Just connect a giant copper radiator to it without a fan.
I see you didn’t address the other points I made. Now we’re down to just the one. Whatever. This one is pure speculation, so can’t be disproven.
Im not arguing this will be a bad device. I expect it to be fairly good for the price. It’s just not really going to be something you can’t get elsewhere without Valve, with the exception of Bluetooth resuming.
Alright, I’m done. By the “who made it” comment, I know there’s no reasoning. There’s nothing special about this device! The same amount of energy is used, which means heat, as any other device with the same hardware, and the hardware is just about off-the-shelf. Either the fans turn up, which means noise, or it thermal throttles. There’s nothing here that could change the physics. Valve does not employ wizards.
The “semi-custom” GPU they said is only firmware. The silicon is off-the-shelf. Everything else is also off-the-shelf. What don’t you get about this? You can buy these parts yourself.
I know what the specs are. Here’s what your link says:
the Steam Machine runs on a custom AMD setup
You seem intent on ignoring the package as a whole. Even if you could buy the CPU and the GPU, You cannot buy the motherboard or the case or the coolers or the power supply. If you buy comparable ones piecemeal, “off the shelf”, it will be significantly larger and louder because the package is simply not optimized that way. What don’t you get about this?
They clarified, the silicon is off-the-shelf and the firmware is modified. It doesn’t have some “special processor” or anything.
What? It being small only means the heat has less room to be removed, so it needs a higher power fan (or thermal throttling). It does have something to do with heat and noise, in that smaller is worse for them. If it’s quite or cool, that’s despite the size, not because of it.
I don’t care to argue about this, but you’re making unfounded claims that this device is somehow special, because it’s made by Valve I guess, and they need to be worshiped? It seems like a nice kit, but it isn’t particularly groundbreaking. It’s just a well designed and put together computer. Most of what it does is the same as any other computer, running Linux/Arch is capable of.
The firmware is not part of the processor. Every processor has custom firmware.
Being custom allows it to be both small and quiet. Find me another PC in this size, with this much power, that’s as quiet. You can’t.
I’ve already stated why several times. Now you’re just being disingenuous.
We don’t know how quite this will be! Even the ones that were shown aren’t necessarily final. Again, you’re making claims without any evidence. I can’t show you something as quite as small, because we don’t know how quite it’ll be. To show you it isn’t anything crazy though, there are fanless PCs that you can get. As powerful? No. As quite? Even more. It’s a trade off. It isn’t magic. If you do something custom you could get even quieter with more power. Just connect a giant copper radiator to it without a fan.
I see you didn’t address the other points I made. Now we’re down to just the one. Whatever. This one is pure speculation, so can’t be disproven.
Im not arguing this will be a bad device. I expect it to be fairly good for the price. It’s just not really going to be something you can’t get elsewhere without Valve, with the exception of Bluetooth resuming.
You can tell by looking at the design, and by who made it.
Please go back and read my first comment on this thread. I said quiet, powerful, and compact. All 3.
I did. Several times.
Alright, I’m done. By the “who made it” comment, I know there’s no reasoning. There’s nothing special about this device! The same amount of energy is used, which means heat, as any other device with the same hardware, and the hardware is just about off-the-shelf. Either the fans turn up, which means noise, or it thermal throttles. There’s nothing here that could change the physics. Valve does not employ wizards.
LOL no you don’t.
There is no other device with the same hardware. You know there isn’t. I don’t understand why you’re making this up.
No wizards required, just some smart engineers and novel design.
This again… Yes there are. Here’s the specs: https://thegamepost.com/valve-steam-machine-full-specs/
The “semi-custom” GPU they said is only firmware. The silicon is off-the-shelf. Everything else is also off-the-shelf. What don’t you get about this? You can buy these parts yourself.
I know what the specs are. Here’s what your link says:
You seem intent on ignoring the package as a whole. Even if you could buy the CPU and the GPU, You cannot buy the motherboard or the case or the coolers or the power supply. If you buy comparable ones piecemeal, “off the shelf”, it will be significantly larger and louder because the package is simply not optimized that way. What don’t you get about this?