There’s a clear campaign against the mentally ill with the global rise of fascism. Lots of it shows up in anti homeless rhetoric, but you can see it in the MAHA and anti vaccination movements.

There’s no reason to use the word “r-tarded” to describe someone. As someone who’s worked with the intellectually challenged, it’s an insult to them to compare them with people who are willfully ignorant.

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    While they are incorrect about the specific term, their main point is correct. “Slave” was removed from the terminology. Same with Blacklist and Whitelist. They are no longer the preferred terms.

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        Nope. Blocklist and Allowlist I believe. Because despite having no racist origins, “black” being the “bad” list and “white” being the “good” list made some people uncomfortable. It’s the perfect example of meaningless surface level changes imo

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          I used to have a word for how ridiculous this is but the op said I shouldn’t use it anymore

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          Yeah I mean if that’s the standard I’m fine with it. But as I mentioned in a reply to somebody else, to make something black you don’t add darkness, you subtract light. So inherently black is subtraction and white is addition. Saying that addition is good and subtraction is bad is like a weird byproduct of “positive” meaning good and “negative” meaning bad, when they are just numbers on either side of zero.

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            Colors are additive or subtractive depending on the medium, so you are entirely wrong here and just spouting nonsense, fyi. Paints are additive, light is subtractive. All colors of light makes white and all colors of paint makes black.

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          Where is the AsianList? I thought we were supposed to be inclusive now!

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        Why does one automatically associate black with bad and white with good? Think about it.

        Remember that we also do things subliminally. So black = bad rubs off on people who can be called “black”.

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          I mean I get it, but I never thought of it that way. Like black is the absence light or color. You don’t add darkness to something to make it black, you subtract light, color, energy etc. So black is “negative”. White is the opposite of black. On a color slider, it’s all of everything all the way, it’s “positive”, and I don’t mean “positive = good” way, I mean like mathematically positive, like a “+” sign. Like do electricians need to stop using black cables for negative? It just seems like a reach unless it originally had some racist etymology. Like if the term" blacklist"was originally used by restaurant owners during segregation and they didn’t allow black people in, or anybody on the “blacklist” because anybody on that list should be treated as if they were black then I would be like “Oh yeah holy shit, we should definitely not use that term”. But I think saying black is negative and white is positive has both scientific and mathematical origins.

          I’m fine with using blocklist and allowlist. I guess I just never got the memo that we weren’t supposed to use blacklist and whitelist.

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            You don’t add darkness to something to make it black, you subtract light, color, energy etc.

            Except you do, when you’re using additive mixing (I.e paint)

            I’m not saying it’s that it’s inherently racist. I’m saying that black people rightfully dislike that “black” is associated with “negative”

            But I think saying black is negative and white is positive has both scientific and mathematical origins.

            It has neither.

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          It’s almost like it’s a common theme that dark, dingy, places are associated with danger and bright warm areas are associated with safety, life, purity, truth, etc. and when you simplify that to a basic theme, you end up with black = bad and white = good. It’s a theme that springs up from nature itself.

          Which further goes to my point: the words are just placeholders for feelings and emotions. So to change the words does nothing to change the feelings. If you remove all the hateful words, you won’t remove hate. You’ll just end up with “I hope you unalive yourself you bottom of the bell curve” instead.

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            Dark places aren’t inherently more dangerous. Light, bright areas aren’t inherently positive.

            These are the subliminal ideas that were put into your head by literature, religion, popular culture, etc (that was often seeped in racism).

            Just like numbers aren’t inherently good or bad, but certain numbers rise associations with “good” or “bad” 3, 7, 13, 666, 777, Etc.

            “Nature itself” argument is completely BS, as many animals hunt and spring to life at night, while daytime and light means danger to them.

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              Dark cave vs open meadow.

              Clear skies vs stormy clouds.

              Clear still water vs murky turbulent water.

              Death and decay vs life.

              But nah, I’m just making up literary themes that have existed for centuries. For fucks sake, the vast majority of horror movies rely on darkness.

              The fucking yin yang is literally the fusion of light and darkness, good and evil.

              You’re just being intentionally obtuse or you’re really that dumb that you don’t get any of these themes.

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                Dark cave vs open meadow.

                When you’re a rodent?

                Clear skies vs stormy clouds.

                When you’re stranded in the desert?

                Clear still water vs murky turbulent water.

                When you’re a fish?

                Death and decay vs life.

                How does that have anything to do with black/white?

                But nah, I’m just making up literary themes that have existed for centuries. For fucks sake, the vast majority of horror movies rely on darkness.

                The fucking yin yang is literally the fusion of light and darkness, good and evil.

                You’re trying to disprove that it a subliminal bias induced by other people who lived a while ago by… giving me examples of it?

                You’re just being intentionally obtuse or you’re really that dumb that you don’t get any of these themes.

                Oh the irony…

                Additionally:

                Pink is not “feminine”
                Blue is not “masculine”

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                  Since we’ve drifted so far from the point, let me bring us back.

                  You are an imbecile. A low intelligent, dimwitted individual. Someone who lacks understanding of subtext or really any basic reading comprehension. You are an overall drain on society. A moron. A few fries short of a happy meal. Your elevator doesn’t go to the top floor. Lights are on, no one’s home.

                  Now, you see how I was able to easily insult your lack of intelligence without once calling you removed? So pray tell me, how would removing that word have changed this interaction at all? I’d still be calling you shit for brains without using the dreaded “R-word”. Do you maybe see now how it’s not the language, but the emotions of the person uttering them that matters? That you need to change my emotional state, not just restrict my use of words. Because as I’ve clearly pointed out, I can still call you a fucktard without using “removed”.

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                    I haven’t drifted from the point at all. You were confused why blacklist/whitelist were changed to blocklist/allowlist.

                    It seems it went over your head.