Star Wars fans when they realize the movies were based on the Vietnam war, and the empire was America.

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    Americans when they don’t realize most of the West isn’t American, don’t speak English, and don’t generally oppose rebellion against oppressors. Ireland, for example.

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      C’mon you can’t bring up Ireland as representative of the West when they’re the OG colony. By that metric the West is anti-Zionist.

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        Sure add: Greece. Portugal. Italy. France. Spain. Armed antifascist struggles, may 68, general strikes, civil wars, guerilla groups, etc.

        Like the reductiveness of “West bad” is so insanely naive that it hurts.

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          Clearly the meme is referring to rebellions against the interests of the country in question. So since they brought up Ireland: How supportive were the British of the Irish war of independence? What about the IRA during the Troubles? How does France react when its neocolonial empire in Africa is disrupted? Before 2023, what was your average European’s image of Palestinian resistance? What’s the verdict on the Houthi “rebels” again? And so on. With some exceptions, these supposed liberatory ethos are thrown out the window the moment they become inconvenient.

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            Sure, but ask the global south about the war in Ukraine, and you’ll realise you’re looking into a mirror. Most “anti imperialism” I hear is just from people pissed they get the wrong end of the stick, not that there’s a stick in the first place. The “west bad” memes just appear as virtue signalling without much substance.