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Enablers.

Come On Home, Yankee soldiers

There is literally no mention in the article about how many Iranians military or civilian have been killed.

Fucking solipsistic Yankees man. And this is even supposed to be their respectable centrist media outlet. Non-american lives just don’t matter to them.

You and I have talked about this exact topic before. You seemed to think my arguments about the financialization of housing were … gaslighting.

Oh I’m not at all against this. I am absolutely for it. What I’m against is the trumpist-smelling anti-immigration rhetoric of the right and the centre.

This kind of shit makes me so fucking angry on so many levels.

Weren’t we just being inundated with right wing talking points about how the population of our country had risen too quickly and we had to severely curtail immigration? And now we do this?

So, one is to surmise that the problem was really that the population increase did not have the desirable… hue?

Cypriot Greek

Your statement that this gets more attention than killings of civilians is not as obviously true as you make it. This is the first thread on Lemmy I’ve seen for example specifically discussing the ship whereas I’ve seen multiple others discussing the school bombing. So I’m not sure I know what you’re talking about here.

About the other two, again I’m not sure where you’re getting at. You’re digging your heels on what exactly? That people should not be upset about this? My points 2 and 3 tried to describe some reasons why people might feel upset. Your point is what? “Fuck your feelings”? I mean ok, you can say that, but then what?

Is this the FAFO the Americans keep taking about?

Your comment does multiple things at once.

You are asking why the outrage over this vs the school. Well, that’s a false dilemma. Nobody says the school bombing was A-OK.

You’re asserting that being in a country’s Navy makes it so that you accept the risk someone might shoot you. Well, nobody says it isn’t so. But that doesn’t make that loss of life A-OK. This is especially shocking given the brutal nature of a ship being torpedoed like that.

The United States has not declared war on Iran according to their own fucking constitution. They only make a bullshit self defense argument. But the ship was in an unrelated part of the world, in Shri Lanka, so literally unable to threaten anything. So the killing felt gratuitous, cold blooded, brutal, unnecessary. The US could have neutralized the ship in a more humane way, given them a chance to surrender, etc. Instead they chose this.

So, no, this isn’t more important than the bombing of the school, and yes it is a warship but it’s still brutal and shocking. Your scolding of people’s natural aversion to this massacre is just not helpful.

A special military one?

Chronic Dutch disease…

It cannot be the case that cycling infrastructure is discussed pracemeal like this. Would the public be asked about installing a new pedestrian sidewalk? No because it’s considered normal for a street to have a sidewalk. If a national safety standard for multi-modal infrastructure were in place, these kinds of questions would become uncontroversial.

The moment the US used the NATO deterrent as trade leverage, that ship sailed.

Are they going to be primaried?

To move towards solutions that respect both human dignity and the law, and given that human dignity is non-negotiable, the law would have to respect human dignity.

Not interested in antisemitic gaslighting. This conversation ends here.