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      I think it’s funny you not only included Ticketmaster in that list, but you out it first.

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        Music is what nourishes our souls and helps us release and bond. Ticketmaster is destroying the one of the most important parts of that experience. Fuck them and their monopoly racket. When they die, it could be a sign that humanity is healing.

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    There’s a car at the place I work with a bumper sticker that says, “I’d rather be killing CEOs,” and it makes me smile every time I pass it. The funny part is that I’m pretty sure a cop drives it.

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    "Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or a knife, and lay in wait on the steps of the palaces of the rich and stab or shoot the owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination. "

     ----Lucy Parsons
    
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    I would rather live in a world where large numbers of people didn’t feel like this, but here we are. So I shall laugh when someone kills one of those bastards.

    If we solved poverty, and I don’t care too much who pays for it, then I would probably be quite happy to let them keep their riches. But there are still billions that don’t have enough.

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      But that’s the root of the problem, 99$ of all billionaires are sociopaths that will never have enough, always needing more; and capitalism is built on extraction of wealth.
      There are billions who don’t have enough, because the filthy rich are incapable of ever having enough.

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        One of the many shitty parts of capitalism is that if your CEO doesn’t come up with as many shitty ways to turn an already successful company that’s already saturated its market into one that makes more money this year than it did last year, the shareholders (always Vanguard, BlackRock, State Street, JPMorgan and a few others who all own each other as well) will fire them and appoint a psychopath who will.

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        Yep, and because of their greed at the expense of others I shall cheer their deaths.

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    I know CEOs get a lot of crap but here me out for a second before down voting me.

    A close friend made CEO a few years ago and lead his company in a way that would make us all proud. Due to the spitting contest the Tyrannical Cheeto got in with terrifs he had a handful of bad quarters. Instead of visiting the pain on his staff he did the right thing. Last week his board had him removed as CEO and his pay slashed to less than he was making as VP of Marketing.

    The moral of the story is the problem goes well beyond CEOs. The same thing will happen to the board of they’re not effective because those who hold the stocks on the company will demand it. CEOs that make it in the news are often particular bad apples but remember that systems create behavior. In other words if we get a result from the majority of people in the role the majority of the time the problem isn’t the people, it’s the system.

    I’m ready for my down votes…

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      In other words if we get a result from the majority of people in the role the majority of the time the problem isn’t the people, it’s the system.

      The problem is that unfortunately the system doesn’t change unless an extremely real threat exists. The majority of socialist policies that came about ~120 years ago were from direct violence. Corporations change policies immediately when someone they know is affected. They see themselves as next in line.

      United Healthcare immediately changed after their CEO was killed.

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      Last week his board had him removed as CEO and his pay slashed

      …and that is what happens to CEOs who try to do “the right thing.” And cops who try to do “the right thing.” And politicians who try to do “the right thing.”

      It’s a system that selects for the people we naively call “bad apples” and root out the ones that are willing to do “the right thing” - and that means we don’t really have to worry about targeting the wrong ones, do we?

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      You’re missing a crucial point: that the system is rotten doesn’t excuse the rotten people perpetuating it and you can’t dismantle the system while keeping the people propping it up in place.

      Just because you have a close friend who’s a unicorn doesn’t mean that the horses aren’t shitting all over the place and kicking the other animals in the head at every opportunity. Or that the farmers and the industry organizations encouraging that behavior shouldn’t be replaced by something better.

      That mixed metaphor REALLY got away from me, but I’m fine with that as long as the meaning got across 🤷

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        You’re missing a crucial point: that the system is rotten doesn’t excuse the rotten people perpetuating it and you can’t dismantle the system while keeping the people propping it up in place.

        I think you’re making GPs point. However, “the people propping up the system” aren’t just CEOs. This is proven by the fact that a CEO trying to act in a better way is removed. It all comes down to Dodge Vs Ford Motor Co.. The people in power are shareholders and they are the hedge funds of wall street.

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          I think you’re making GPs point

          No, I’m expounding on mine in order to illustrate that his is too limited.

          the people propping up the system" aren’t just CEOs

          I KNOW. Hence the farmers and industry associations in my tortured mixed metaphor.

          This is proven by the fact that a CEO trying to act in a better way is removed

          Which is a unicorn that doesn’t excuse the behavior of the horses.

          . It all comes down to Dodge Vs Ford Motor Co..

          Nope. There you go artificially shrinking the issue again. Shareholder power IS a significant part of the problem, of course, but it’s not the entire problem.

          The people in power are shareholders and they are the hedge funds of wall street.

          Those are other parts of the whole system we need to get rid of, yes. Still doesn’t mean that abusive horses CEOs are powerless or that it isn’t beneficial to get rid of them.

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        Systems create behavior. Whoever enables, maintains, and protects the system is the real culprit. And going after who these folks stand up as straw men isn’t going to solve anything.

        These folks will go through a rotating door of CEOs with no end of supply to get what they want. It’s like trying to play whack a mole with 1 hammer and a million moles.

        Spending our time and attention on straw men enables those who actually have impact to continue what they’re doing without obstruction.

        You and I don’t disagree that change is needed it seems, we just disagree on method a bit. I’ve been far enough to the executive ladder for multiple companies to know that CEOs have very little power and are frequently replaced for even the slightest blip.

        Hell even murdering a CEO that’s gotten national press hasn’t moved the needle, because it was never the CEO who set the stage to begin with. It’s like murdering your car mechanic because your Chevrolet is so poorly designed that the front end has to be removed to replace the lightbulbs and charges you an arm and a leg to do it. Not a perfect metaphor for sure but the point is it’s not the mechanics fault they need to go through so much labor to change the bulb and thus charge for $500 in labor for a light bulb change.

        As another commentator mentioned the case of Dodge vs Ford was an iconic case that can be argued set the stage for where we are today. Which I largely blame Ford for how he handled the case and his paper thin arguments for his actions.

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      The thing about murdering ceos is the next biggest shithead moves up to take their place. Making it easy to identify who the shitheads are. The system comes from the people running it.

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      Definitely more than ceos need to die.

      Shareholders, too!

      The rivers won’t run anymore red with blood than they do now, but it will be the blood of the guilty. Also they won’t catch fire so often.

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        I would argue it’s those who enable, maintain, and protect the system. Then we can change the system. But until then nothing will change. People are people and want the most for the least, even when it comes at someone else’s expense. But when the system enables and encourages the behavior then we’re in danger, like now.

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          What of this system is worth saving? Is whatever that is worth trudging through all the much and all the pieces we can’t get clean?

          No. Fuck that. Fuck that so much. More effort for worse result than doing something new. Take all the physical stuff and arrange it’s use in any of a thousand ways that make literally any sense.

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            Oh I don’t think it’s worth saving. Just gotta attack the right place.

            As a kid I loved Batman. Now I realize he’s an embodiment of what’s wrong and toxic. The Joker on the other hand seems to have some ideas worth considering 😁

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        I’m a shareholder. You want me dead for the 5k€ in shares I gamble with and that don’t give me enough votes to change anything? lol. I think what you really mean are big investment companies which manage the funds of rich ppl and have majority votes on their behalf.

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    CEOs are assholes but easily replaceable. You must follow the money and aim at the bigger assholes that put them in charge.

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      A key issue is that the talent pool itself isn’t meaningfully better. Across every echelon of Big Tech, you’ll find plenty of people who couldn’t care less about the societal consequences of their work. They see themselves as neutral scientists and conveniently ignore the fact that they don’t work in academic labs. They work for multibillion-dollar corporations. These companies will push any breakthrough to market for competitive advantage, without a second thought for its broader social impact. Not to mention to questionable clients.

      Ultimately, this situation isn’t driven by a lack of technical brilliance, but by the absence of strong American regulation and a failure to meaningfully rein in these companies. Quite frankly most of them should be broken up. That regulatory vacuum is what puts the rest of the world at risk.

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        Nothing says they are mutually exclusive. I’m just trying to remind people that at the end of the day, the asshole CEO won’t anything without it’s master’s permission. Those just happen to want to run everything.