• GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
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    29 minutes ago

    This is why i respect China—socialist or not. Without a healthy planet, there’d be no one left to do anything.

  • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    My conspiracy theory is that billionaires like Musk and Gates believe in climate change but want it to happen because it will primarily genocide black Africans and the billionaires will not suffer from it.

  • joelfromaus@aussie.zone
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    10 hours ago

    I found it funny, in a morbid way, when the then conservative Australian Prime Minister announced 4 floods in Queensland each only weeks apart. I’m paraphrasing here since I can’t be bothered looking up the numbers. The first was once in 500 years, the next; once in a century, then one in 50 years and then once in a decade. The timelines just kept getting shorter! Eventually they’d be once a week floods, then once a day!! But it’s totally normal and definitely not climate change.

    Hard to believe that some people still take morons like that seriously. You’d really have to be in a state of complete denial to look at the 4th flood, listen to the PM and think “boy am I glad the Greeny tree huggers aren’t in charge.”

  • lobut@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    I usually just assume people around me are left leaning and progressive.

    I went to London to visit the satellite office and one of the top guys there was having a rant against vegans. I chimed in a bit and said, “well, you can say what you want but vegans are at least doing good for the environment”.

    The guy was like, “I don’t believe that”

    I thought he was joking, so I said, “haha what, you don’t believe in climate change?”

    I should have never said that. Ten minutes of him furiously ranting about nonsense.

    I got great quotes such as: “you know what climate change is? it’s when seasons change” and also “we should be eating more animals because it increases the carbon in the world and is good for us”.

    Fucking hell. When I got back to the Canadian office and told my coworkers about him, the others were telling me how much of a prick he was – and they didn’t know anything about the climate change denial shit he was into either.

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      13 hours ago

      Wait, you’re saying someone who is confidently incorrect happens to be an asshole? Shocking!

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 hours ago

      I believe climate change is real, but I don’t believe being vegan is an effective method to combat it, so I don’t think vegans are doing good for the environment

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        5 hours ago

        Is this sarcasm?

        It’s not a question of belief. It’s a question of understanding facts. Just like “believing” in climate change or vaccines or science in general.

        • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.de
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          45 minutes ago

          The claim is as follows

          I don’t believe being vegan is an effective method to combat [climate change]

          Do we have hard data showing that if more people went vegan, it’d significantly affect climate change? Because if not… Then yes, I’d say it is a question of belief.

          If what we have is data on the impact of the meat industry, data on the impact of things like water use and gases produced by animals on the climate, data on how the climate behaves and changes in general, and data on how other things affect the environment, you have to trust and believe that not only every part of it is right, but that it was also all put together and compared correctly.

          And it’s difficult to know who to believe, when there seems to be so much conflicting information these days.

          I’ll also say honestly that I don’t know if being vegan has a significant impact. What I’ve heard and read a lot of is that there’s a lot of blaming of individuals while supposedly big corporations are the ones causing the most pollution… Which simultaneously ignores the question of how much of that pollution is driven directly by people buying products that are polluting to produce.

          The whole thing feels hopeless, and one feeling I do get about that is that doing anything as an individual seems pointless, since countless more people… They don’t just not care, they’ll actively do things they know are polluting, either because they’re a bit cheaper, or downright as a statement of objection to caring about global warming.

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            39 minutes ago

            Assumption is that animal industry will reduce if more people become vegan, and that has a big impact.

            But I unfortunately agree, that the industry will likely not change until maybe at least 50% of population are strict vegans, or maybe even then, they will just try to make the rest of population consume more meat to never reduce the production.

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      11 hours ago

      The fucked up part is: Science has already come up with a magical solution, plenty in fact; we’re just failing to implement them. Renewables, and especially solar, are developing at an incredible pace and in a better world would already be the main source of energy worldwide. The only technology missing from this equation is the guillotine.

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    17 hours ago

    This is a twit of a comic. Why include the twitter guy? Did he make the comic?