In the John Cena video he says they can’t pick apples off of trees because that “harms the tree”, but aren’t there literally millions of species of plant that literally evolved tasty fruit to attract animals to eat them to distribute seeds? I’d think the Plurbs would have some botanists and biologists in their collective that know this, and I’d argue if a plant literally evolves a berry that’s like “hey eat my berries!” they consenting to have you eat their berries.
Should couldn’t they all just eat berry smoothies?
Again I gotta stop watching this as a serious SciFi show.
that is one of the reasons i don’t buy the logic of the hive ethic and, after riding the fence in the audience, i’ve decided the space signal was made with dubious intention for intelligent species (as defined by the ability to perceive complex deep space signals and decode them).
there are a lot of ethical considerations with food and the environment, and being against fruit for “interfering” was very specifically chosen. like other animals, humans co-evolved with perennial fruits. it’s a basic mutualism. i’m not saying all fruit production is ethical/environmentally sound, but at a basic level humans and fruits are archetypal proto-agriculture: monkey eats the fruit (itself a product of pollination), monkey shits the seed, plant gets genetic recombination in a fertilizer pile. more, very different fruit later.
when they chose that example (perennial fruit) instead of like wheat and corn and all the other cereal grains and annuals and their pretty remarkable baggage, they weren’t just saying “agriculture bad” or “hunting bad”, they were saying “gathering bad.”
i’ve read polemic articles “against agriculture” and discussed them, there’s plenty of people against “hunting” for obvious reasons, but i have never heard of someone being “against gathering”. it’s kind of foundational to mammals and really every life form that isn’t an autotroph or a decomposer, like fungi.
i don’t think the writers made the decision to focus in on fruit lightly. i think it was signal something is fucked with the program. i really think it’s an efficient kill switch for unsuspecting intelligent life. it targets the dominant species and has them self-cannibalize to shrink the population and condense its foot print further and further while building the antennae to broadcast the signal out again.
make no mistake, dead human bodies are gnarly for the environment. we accumulate a shitload of heavy metals and forever garbage chemicals, so this would condense all that and magnify it into a smaller and smaller population with a more and more reduced footprint until blip.
it’s like a script that recursively and systematically deletes humans.
This would be a cool SciFi concept but I don’t think Vince Gilligan is smart enough for this.
Again I gotta stop watching this as a serious SciFi show.
John Cena specifies that they can’t interfere with life without consent – apart from infecting them with the psychic glue
Not just harm
But, are you really interfering if what you are doing it like, part of their natural life cycle?
I mean, obviously not, but I just read it as a weird space virus that behaves in unpredictable and stupid ways, leading to the death of almost all the species.
The reason this rule exists is to artificially kneecap the plurb and make them the villainous zombie invasion.
Its given as a mid season twist and basically solidifies that everyone besides carol and manousos are bad and evil for letting the plurb get humanity extinct.
The writers think communism is good in theory but then it has famines because people lose their agency.
Maybe, also think Gilligan just had an idea and is using it as a structure to build character drama around.
If the show wanted to actually present a philosophy to it’s SciFi world building it’d probably benefit from a scene like this from Pantheon (mind you these are the villains of the first season of the show). But that’s too much to ask from most western media.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I think the writers are illustrating that the “non-intervention” policy is bunk. We see Kusimayu initially loving her animals. After she joins, she callously lets the goat escape from the pen despite the goat appearing to be attached to her. She just condemned that goat to a brutal death in the Peruvian wilderness despite their “no harm” policy. I think it’s less a plot hole and more of an exploration of the validity of the plurbs philosophy.
I’ve been absolutely loving how polarizing this show is.
I’ve been absolutely loving how polarizing this show is.
Honestly I think it’s going to reignite the prestige TV struggle sessions. UlyssesT may make a comeback to make a bunch of condescending posts with way too many emojis.
Jerk aside, I do find the discussion of the show more interesting than the show itself. I think the show itself is kind of mid but it sparks some interesting discussion if nothing else.
UlyssesT may make a comeback to make a bunch of condescending posts with way too many emojis.
I’m licking my pen, ready to sign my UlyT apology form. Who knows, S2 of plurb may not come for a year or so, if at all, by which time I doubt I’ll br able to muster the enthusiasm :/
UlyssesT may make a comeback
lol funny, all the plurbposting here had me thinking about UT and what he’d say bout it.oddly my gut says like he’d be ambivalent about it so it wouldn’t generate one of those really
rants i miss about himmy gut says like he’d be ambivalent about it
His hate boner for Breaker Bad was too strong, there is no way he could resist the urge to shit on Gilligan’s latest creation. The guy’s entire lodestar was that overproduced cynical TV was the nexus of all modern society’s woes.
i definitely feel ya and am likely wrong. he hated that space game for years and was never short on energy for hatin’. dunno why i feel like i do. luckily it don’t matter lol
For me the thing that annoyed me about him was he never seemed to talk about anything BUT his hot takes on media. Real shit would be happening in the world and yet hours upon hours of his waking life were spent having conniptions about fucking Game of Thrones.
Motherfucker I’ll take the world’s biggest GoT nerd who does legit activism against the genocide in Palestine over the world’s greatest Crusader against media with problematic themes.
Haven’t seen the show but yeah that’s our current understanding of why some fruit was developed to be tasty and edible, so animals spread the seed.
It sounds like they are kind of riffing on the way some people interpret Jainism.
