Cet article est aussi disponible en français. This article contains quite a few technical terms, which I will explain these in the following paragraphs, those that are already familiar with these terms may skip to the next section. A basic understanding of linux and it’s desktop environments is assumed. Server side decorations (SSD) is the term for when when the application’s titlebar is drawn by the system and client side decorations (CSD) is the term for when the applications draws it’s own titlebar. KDE prefers the former, while GNOME prefers the latter. KDE and most other desktop environments supports both, while GNOME only supports CSD.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/57302675

an article explaining why GNOME should support SSD, but also arguing against the reasons often given for why they shouldn’t

If someone could repost this to r/GNOME I would appreciate it, since I don’t have a reddit account.

  • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
    5614·
    1 month ago

    It’s funny how many GNOME people whine about the title bar wasting so much space when GNOME apps literally look like as if they’ve been made for touchscreen users. Also, what about the great black bar on the top of the system?

    We should honestly just leave GNOME behind and have them deal with it. We won’t move forward much with their child-like stubbornness and toxic community.

    • The_Grinch [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      20·
      1 month ago

      I just hate how the CSDs keep moving the title buttons around depending on how wide the header bar is. I want my buttons in the exact same place and order no matter what. If I have to think about how to minimize/maximize/close a window for a tenth of a second it’s too long.

      They also regularly take away very useful menubars and that’s even worse in my opinion.

    • gregloscombe@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 month ago

      So I love CSD, but I do agree that the padding, and rounded corners on every element is crap. There is dozens of studies into mistakes / productivity loss when you need to scroll. Programming, accounting, writing etc - everything benefits from more space.

      I remember switching from windows to linux for day to day, and finding myself f’king about way more in a debugger to get the info needed (eclipse in this case). Took screenshots in linux and windows… has lost about 20% of screen estate. Horrible.

      We’ve spent decades adding more monitors, and now its all been taken by touch screen garbage.

      The sad thing is, GTK and its css classes are probably the best potential for good UI, just the fat finger touch screen requirements has it borderline unusable for a professional desktop.