• mysticpickle@lemmy.ca
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    When Ethan contracted the measles around January 20, his parents hoped he would shake it off and “bounce back” like his brothers, aged 2 and 4, did when they came down with it a week or so prior. Ethan was not so lucky.

    Jesus fuck he wasn’t the only one…

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      the other 2 had a mild infection which is usually the case for children. but ethan had the most severe form which is rare; panechephalitis and dangerous.

      all bets are off an adult gets it too.

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        There’s still time for the other 2.

        Dawson Disease (SSPE)

        It has been estimated that about 2 in 10,000 people who get measles will eventually develop SSPE. However, a 2016 study estimated that the rate for unvaccinated infants under 15 months was as high as 1 in 609. No cure for SSPE exists, and the condition is almost always fatal.

        SSPE is characterized by a history of primary measles infection, followed by a normal, unremarkable recovery. Symptoms of SSPE appear later. On average, the first symptoms appear about 10 years after the initial infection

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        Under the present administration, this family would have been first in line to receive their “breeding license.”

        Breeding the “Trump Youth” and next generation of MAGAts.

        Eugenics is fascist, end of.

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          Note: positive eugenics is also fascist.

          For clarification - negative eugenics = preventing certain groups from reproducing. Positive eugenics = promoting certain groups to reproduce.

          Fascists use both.

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          Yes, it’s apparently a human right for evil subhumans to bring children into the world and abuse them. The anti-eugenics crowd speed-running idiocracy.

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            Eugenics is fascist. You are defending a fascist ideology. Take a step back to consider that please.

            Also curious to know how you would decide who gets to reproduce.

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              We place moral restrictions on decisions that have a potential to hurt others. Bringing children into this world is one such decision.

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                False equivalency. Also waiting on your criteria for a reproduction permit.

                Again, eugenics is fascist.

                Also, even with the best effort to restrict reproduction in a “good” way, the instant your administration changes, those restrictions will change too. Do you want the Trump admin to choose who can reproduce?

                Education is the answer. Always has been, always will be.

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                  the instant your administration changes, those restrictions will change too.

                  This applies to a lot of things. It’s a reason why you don’t want too much infrastructure in place that can be used for oppression, even if such infrastructure is put into place by a benevolent administration.

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                    Yes, and in the case of restrictions on reproduction, I do not see any way to implement that without having that gigantic oppressive infrastructure.

                    Also, “benevolent” eugenics is still eugenics, still fascist.

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                    All of the “problems” they’re pointing out against letting stupid/evil people have a dozen kids are problems that still exist without such a restriction. Inability to isolate variables and saying we shouldn’t do anything because “the system is imperfect” defines conservatism.

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                Once thought like that, but actually think through it and it’s not possible without being evil: what are the criteria, who makes the call, who watches those making such calls to ensure it’s fair (and who watches them and so on because this kind of thing would immediately attract people seeking power over others and therefore corruption), how does one appeal, etc etc etc.

                It just isn’t possible without being a fascist (evil).

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                  Also it’s been done before even in “nonfascist” states - see forced sterilization of indigineous peoples and African Americans in the US.

                  Having a child is something a pair of consenting adults can do with their own bodies. How the state can get involved in that without it being a major incursion on personal liberty should cause one to pause.

                  I’m convinced that in this part of the world most supporters are either active or latent white supremacists. In other parts it’s often based on subjugation of a more specific ethnic group, which isn’t any better. It’s all fascism at the end of the day.

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        Eugenics is okay when it’s for my team but not for the others.

        Very conservative mindset. lol

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        This has been considered at various points in history and, at least in the Western world, it often comes down to white people being given permission (regardless of preparedness) and people of color being forcibly sterilized. Also known as eugenics.

        White supremacy is a hell of a scourge and the Western world is still trying to shake it, over the course of centuries.