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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · 4 days ago

Liberals will never not fall for it

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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · 4 days ago
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  • Tuuktuuk@nord.pub
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    The people in Iran have a right to express their opinion even if a country somewhere else would be willing to use their expressing their opinion as an excuse to bomb them.

    USA bombing Iranians is USA’s fault, not the fault of Iranian protesters. And in extension, it is not the fault of people supporting the Iranian protesters. The Iranian leadership is full of shit.

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      Its common for .ml to not be able to see as two things being bad. They are just anti-west without critical thought. Its pretty clear that a fundamentalist theocratic government is not a good thing, but that is not an endorsement of US interventions.

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        Identity politics has stripped political movements of all nuance. There is nothing but in-group and out-group, with no ideas and no principles.

      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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        It’s common for .worlders to fence sit and both sides genocide and imperialism by repeating all imperialist propaganda instead of picking the side of the people fighting it.

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          • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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            Yes that’s me making fun of a Zionist for condemning his wife because she supported Palestine.

            You keep proving my point.

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              And he is still doing more for leftists. Maybe pick up the slack where he cannot instead of left bashing. Its a team effort you know.

              • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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                Is he getting treats for the Ubermenschen in New York in exchange for throwing the Palestinian Untermenschen under the bus? Hecking love National Socialism.

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                  Is he getting treats for the Ubermenschen in New York in exchange for throwing the Palestinian Untermenschen under the bus? Hecking love National Socialism.

                  Sorry I couldn’t help but notice the lack of evidence for such a thing. If you have it you should make a top level post about it, so that I and others can re-evaluate our positions.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      The people in Iran have a right to express their opinion

      That’s all well and good, but it doesn’t actually change the immutable law of cause and effect that was entirely obvious in this case. Doing something that will predictably lead to a bad outcome just because you wish it wouldn’t is still a terrible idea

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        Do I guess right that you also wouldn’t allow a woman to walk outdoors in “too sexy clothes”?

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          No. What a deranged thing to say

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            Okay, good to hear.

            In any case, your argument is almost verbatim what I’m used to hear from people saying so.

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              No. It isn’t.

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      The “protesters” were mercenaries & rioters led by the CIA & Mossad to kill civilians & police and to seize or set fire to government buildings. It was the standard faux color revolution playbook for regime change that the US has been using since at least the 1980s.

      One reason they keep using it is because you keep falling for it.

      Previously:

      • Western Media Whitewashes Deadly Riots in Iran
      • Meet the former fashion blogger and shady doctor behind the ‘30,000 dead’ Iran psy-op
      • How Tehran Neutralised Starlink and Foiled Washington’s Colour Revolution playbook
      • The blueprint of regime change operations
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        I like you

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      The Iranians were free to protest until armed Mossad terror cells started shooting and rioting around the country. The protests had been ongoing peacefully for like 2 weeks. But keeps repeating the atrocity propaganda.

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        So are you saying that they shouldn’t have been allowed to protest? I’m not getting the message here.

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          The were allowed to protest. They were not allowed to “protest” amidst armed terror rioters.

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          Killing 20,000 civilians is atrocity propaganda, and you bought it.

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              The imaginary empires and imaginary atrocities in your head are not my problem.

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          20.000? It’s actually 2 million.

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    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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      Caitlyn Johnstone is bad, my Liberal propaganda website calling everyone Russian bots said so

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        if you could dispute the facts you would have opened by doing that, bye

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          If you could dispute the facts you would respond to the post but you can’t so you resort to adhoms with Liberal propaganda websites.

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        She is clearly a fucking dumbass grifter

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          Is she or are you?

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        Here’s a probably better source on her not being great https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/caitlinjohnstone-com-bias/

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          Better source

          MBFC

          Lol

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            I never said good source to be fair, and I couldn’t find anywhere better in my quick searching

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      Good to know that McCarthyism is now considered “progressive”

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