• baines@piefed.social
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      7 days ago

      so no

      there’s your answer and I suspect you understand this as we’ve struggled to arrive here

      if you want people to do non passion projects you need to pay them for those parts specifically

      as much as I love patreon as a concept (not the company it is shit) the work agreement I’ve always seen is rather open

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        7 days ago

        Even setting aside Patreon or whatever else, I think you’re still wrong about public passion project developers getting to do whatever they want and not have people criticize them for it. If you invite people into your space and then pull the rug out from under them, people are going to treat you like an asshole because you are one for doing that.

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          7 days ago

          people get all kinds of ideas on what they are owed

          but expecting educated, talented people to do boring/difficult/unfun stuff for free is lol

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            7 days ago

            There’s no expectation here. You’re free to walk away from a project any time. You’re free to take your ball and go home. The question is about whether you’re immune to criticism.

            I say that when you put a project out into public and people start using it, you invite criticism (but also praise, of course). The issue is with people who think they’re only entitled to praise and not criticism. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

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              6 days ago

              and yet here we are lol

              this is really simple

              if you want specifically a thing, pay for specifically that thing

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                6 days ago

                But you’re free to criticize, free to fork, and free to ignore in the open source world. Can’t take the criticism? Too bad! Grow a spine!

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                    6 days ago

                    Except in the case that I originally brought up, which seems like years ago in this thread: thousands of people complaining about the same issue.

                    Then no one takes the project seriously.