• Nepenthe@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I always wonder about who takes these videos. The chances of them standing so close and leaving this alive, let alone unscathed, seem logically on the low side

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      1 year ago

      The chances of them standing so close and leaving this alive, let alone unscathed, seem logically on the low side

      It seems like they’re outside the immediate target zone. If they are upwind, it’s possible they might not experience any adverse conditions.

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      1 year ago

      Why do you think this is somehow super lethal?

      And if it were, why is nobody using it much more?

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        Have you ever even been close to a big fire?

        My house burnt down July 5th. You have no idea what yr talking about.

        I got caught once on a highway in the mountains near a fire. I had to travel 30 miles on this road. I was apparently the last one to get on the road before the state closed it because the winds changed. I know this because I was stopped more than once and asked what I was doing, in a bewildered, exasperated way each time.

        So you have a clear idea what it can be like, the highway was cleared of the forest for about 200ft off each side. The entirety of the last 10 miles was fire trucks and helicopters and planes flying over having just dropped water.

        Im hauling ass right, no ones on the road anyway so I book it up to 70 and get the fuck out of there, that much activity, besides the smoke and embers hitting my car and you just don’t want to be there, y’know.

        The last couple miles the wind had pushed the fire to the edge of the forest. It’s 3pm but the only light on me is from the fire. I have my headlights on. I’m looking over at the fire as the trucks start moving away, abandoning their positions and see 200ft tall Doug firs FUCKING EXPLODE

        You have no idea what a forest fire is like. It’s worse than you can even imagine, trust me.

        This shit the Russians are doing is a crime against humanity. One of MANY there are doing in Ukraine.

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        1 year ago

        That looks like white phosphorous. It burns at 2500C and sticks to things and people.

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          1 year ago

          @ours I constantly see it said that these are actually unlikely to be white phosphorus as a reply to the videos being labeled as such…

          Anyone have a longer explanation or a link to one about the range of things these kinds of attacks can be and why they might or might not be white phosphorus when it is Russia doing it in Ukraine?

          @ukraine

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            1 year ago

            Burning white phosphorus (WP) releases a thick white smoke (P2O5 reacting with water in the air). So if there is no dense, white smoke, it can not be WP.

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              1 year ago

              Could this be illumination rounds then? Would explain how the forest isn’t actually on fire, the lack of smoke, and the non-chalantness of the video.

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                No, those are incendiary rounds, there just isn’t much left to burn at this point. It looks amazing for a minute and then it is burned up.