I was willing to entertain that you might have been using a.i. as a crutch, but I’m not willing to have a full blown dialog with a.i. if you’re just going to copy and paste it without thinking for yourself.
And my own radicalization didn’t come from the failure of a single candidate. It came from watching the cruelty and imperialist nature of the US play out over years. If that’s more commonly how radicalization happens, the grief cycle theory is betting on a mechanism that may not even be the primary driver.
Acknowledging the cruelty and imperialist nature of the US is the grief cycle. It’s acceptance, the last stage. We were all raised to believe the US was something else. We had to grieve to arrive at acceptance that the US is not that. Similarly, there is a grief cycle to realize that voting can’t change that.
Broken, traumatized, conditioned toward dominance, full of rage with no healthy outlet
That’s being stuck in grief cycle, not completing it. Anger is the second stage. It’s the stage we get stuck in when there are no healthy communities of grief to support us in our grieving. White men are isolated, by design, and thus become stuck in the anger stage. The path forward is support each other in moving past the anger stage.
And the system is very good at getting to those people before we are
No, it’s not. The system is ALREADY AT THOSE PEOPLE before they even begin the process of anger. The system is fundamentally there at all times causing this. The solution is to build communities of healing and breaking down illusions that trap us, including revealing how the system works to trap us.
Increased suffering and violence
Is NOT what I’m advocating for. That’s what accelerationism is. I am advocating for the demolition of illusions that protect people from grieving about the suffering and violence that is here.
And here I thought there was common ground, even sharing my own personal story a bit, trying to connect. And now I’m AI? I was a writer by trade. I’m certain my writing, along with millions of others, were used to train AI, most without our consent.
Meanwhile your structure and cadence shifted with your longer responses. So 🤷♂️
Yeah, I’m out. Anything I attempt to say now will just be claimed as “copy and paste.”
It doesn’t seem weird to you that both of your last substantive comments started with the exact same concepts in the same structure and only slightly reworded?
It’s called concessions dude. Argumentative structure. I steelman your argument, give it concessions where I do agree, and then follow up where I disagree and state my points. It leaves the reader on those points to let them settle.
You don’t think this is weird? Your second comment repeating your first comment even though my intervening comment didn’t mention these things?
Are you saying you were just rewriting your comment and leaving in the stuff that didn’t change? I’ve just never seen anyone in any forum do that before in 30 years.
I was willing to entertain that you might have been using a.i. as a crutch, but I’m not willing to have a full blown dialog with a.i. if you’re just going to copy and paste it without thinking for yourself.
Acknowledging the cruelty and imperialist nature of the US is the grief cycle. It’s acceptance, the last stage. We were all raised to believe the US was something else. We had to grieve to arrive at acceptance that the US is not that. Similarly, there is a grief cycle to realize that voting can’t change that.
That’s being stuck in grief cycle, not completing it. Anger is the second stage. It’s the stage we get stuck in when there are no healthy communities of grief to support us in our grieving. White men are isolated, by design, and thus become stuck in the anger stage. The path forward is support each other in moving past the anger stage.
No, it’s not. The system is ALREADY AT THOSE PEOPLE before they even begin the process of anger. The system is fundamentally there at all times causing this. The solution is to build communities of healing and breaking down illusions that trap us, including revealing how the system works to trap us.
Is NOT what I’m advocating for. That’s what accelerationism is. I am advocating for the demolition of illusions that protect people from grieving about the suffering and violence that is here.
And here I thought there was common ground, even sharing my own personal story a bit, trying to connect. And now I’m AI? I was a writer by trade. I’m certain my writing, along with millions of others, were used to train AI, most without our consent.
Meanwhile your structure and cadence shifted with your longer responses. So 🤷♂️
Yeah, I’m out. Anything I attempt to say now will just be claimed as “copy and paste.”
It doesn’t seem weird to you that both of your last substantive comments started with the exact same concepts in the same structure and only slightly reworded?
It’s called concessions dude. Argumentative structure. I steelman your argument, give it concessions where I do agree, and then follow up where I disagree and state my points. It leaves the reader on those points to let them settle.
You don’t think this is weird? Your second comment repeating your first comment even though my intervening comment didn’t mention these things?
Are you saying you were just rewriting your comment and leaving in the stuff that didn’t change? I’ve just never seen anyone in any forum do that before in 30 years.
No, that’s my own fault for copying and pasting the previous comment to rewrite the latter half and not editing the top half.
In all honesty, I was sitting on a roof taking a break while installing solar panels. That’s my bad.
Sorry for accusing you of using a.i. I thought it was just regurgitating. I should assumed it was copy paste. My bad