They filmed the screaming. Now they're being silenced.
  • Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    10·
    3 days ago

    Why the fuck don’t they use nitrogen, it’s cheaper than CO2 and won’t trigger pain and panic in the pigs. They are intentionally torturing the pigs

      • Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        8·
        3 days ago

        I definitely don’t eat meat and don’t support the animal torture industry but the engineer in me feels like this could be a problem that could be solved even if the only moral solution is don’t torture and murder animals.

        • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Seems like there should be a better combination of gaseous compounds and pressure/temperature conditions to help the pigs go easier.

    • Mikina@programming.devEnglish
      12·
      2 days ago

      I’ve always thought that CO2 is the humane way to euthanize, assuming it’s done correctly? At least that’s what I found when looking for humane ways how to kill mice for our snake, when I was looking into feasability of raising our own mice.

      We didn’t do it, because we found a good shop with frozen mice nearby, but CO2 with properly controlled delivery was the only humane way recommended by some kind of veterinarian authority I found. Is that wrong?

      Or maybe it’s just different for pigs (due to size differences or something), but from what I remember, it should not trigger pain and panic, and cause the animal to first drift to sleep, anesthetize and then calmly die. Honest question, I’d like to get my facts strait.

      • NewOldGuard@lemmy.mlEnglish
        10·
        2 days ago

        This isn’t true, CO2 is what triggers the feelings of choking and suffocation, it’s why we panic when holding our breath as it builds up in the blood. Maybe you mean carbon monoxide (CO), which does act in the way you describe?

        • Mikina@programming.devEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          I think it was CO2, at least when I tried googling it again (for recommended humane rodent/mice euthanasia), most results (of PDFs from associations or academia labs) seem to mention CO2, i.e https://www.bu.edu/research/ethics-compliance/animal-subjects/animal-care/euthanasia/carbon-dioxide-euthanasia-for-rats-and-mice/

          But, I wouldn’t put it past me to confuse CO2 with CO, so I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised that the guidelines for anyone who has to kill mice will ethical-wash it so the people who have to follow it don’t feel too bad.

        • kungen@feddit.nuEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          Carbon monoxide isn’t that pain free either. In fact, some studies have shown that CO is actually a much worse method than CO2, at least for rodents.

          I don’t think anyone would recommend CO even if it was more humane, as it’d be much too dangerous for a layman to handle.

          I guess it’s the simple fact that there really is no humane way to kill other living creatures…

  • Sunshine@piefed.caOPEnglish
    5·
    2 days ago

    I’m gonna keep posting to expose these corrupt justices shielding animal torture house Brand Qualitätsfleisch.

    Here is what should shock every single person reading this newsletter.

    The slaughterhouse sued. And it won.

    A German appellate court has ruled that Anna and Hendrik must pay a sum likely in the region of €100,000 to the company, although the exact amount still has to be determined in a separate proceeding. The claimed damages stem from their entry into the slaughterhouse, the secret filming, and the publication of the footage.

    And as of June 19th — tomorrow — they are legally required to delete every image and every second of footage from that slaughterhouse, including everything they have posted online.

    Let that sink in. The judges confirmed the footage was authentic. They confirmed it showed animal welfare violations. They confirmed it was in the public interest. And they still gave the slaughterhouse everything it asked for.