A three-time Trump voter was left devastated after the immigration policies of the president he repeatedly supported resulted in his wife being taken away.
Tech salesman and former MAGA supporter Brent Jindra, 48, was stunned when Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents detained his wife, Galina Bobreneva, after the couple landed at Burbank Airport in California, The New York Times reported.
“A U.S. citizen just watched his wife get dragged away and had no idea where she was going,” Jindra, who voted for President Donald Trump, 80, because of his promises of strict immigration enforcement, recalled of the day.
I humbly request that you consider eliminating the “R” word from your vocabulary.
Folks here and here make the case better than I could.
I’m sure no harm was intended, but harm is still caused by that word. The folks to whom it applies are well aware of it and know it’s about them, whether you mean it to be or not.
My wife used to teach at an adult day school for adults with developmental and cognitive disabilities. She taught, among other things, Shakespeare. When I say that her students learned the material, I mean they’d sit around and discuss it. They knew it better than I did (although in fairness, I’ve never been much into Shakespeare).
It’s just a word that feels like it doesn’t harm, but it does. I used to use it years ago until someone pointed this out to me, and now I hope that I can help end the usage of it.
If you read this far, I thank you for doing that, no matter which option you choose. <3
Wait, I can’t tell.
Did OP write removed to mean the r word or did he type it but did it automatically get censored (if the latter, I didn’t know Lemmy could do that). Or is removed innuendo for the r word? Or are you actually offended by the literal usage of “removed?” I’m so confused.
There is no such automatic censorship. I assumed, from the italics, that they were referencing the word and not writing it.
The first line of my reply was:
So I think I was clear. :)
There are instances that replace some slurs with removed, afaik, so it could be Lemmy, but this time it is not, I think
That’s wild. Well, I kinda wish we had it here. heh. (The feature in general.)
Got it, thanks, that makes sense.
I think it was good that you mentioned it. That’s one word I grew up using casually (90s kid) and I felt for a long time like “what the fuck is the big deal?” but I also have words I don’t like being called (like Jap) and it doesn’t feel good when people tell me it’s not a slur.
A while back, I came to the conclusion that f someone is offended by it, the kind thing (maybe this isn’t the right thing or logical thing) to do is not use it, or at least think about why it might hurt these specific people.
I also used it until I was a young adult and became aware of the harm from it.
And your philosophy is a wise one <3
How would you rewrite that part of the sentence that used the “R” word? It seems like “idiot” and “stupid” (edit: “moron”) are also terms with historical baggage, and likely fall into the same category of being a slur. Or is it just because the “R” word is still in use by the medical field? I suppose “dumbass” is the first word that comes to mind without historical (or current?) baggage, and I’m personally fine to use that term to replace all the others above. But the links you provided don’t really give guidance on how to express the above in a “safe” alternative way (note the original was an internal thought); I guess I’m here proposing that everyone just use “dumbass” (shout out to “Red”).
Edit: I guess “dumb” also has its problems; perhaps even “fool”?
There are so many fun words to use!
You can also make new ones.
Like their father being a hamster, and their mother smelling of elderberries.
Ahah, a person of culture!
The british. One creativ people. Not like these in dung swimming fish MAGidiots
Historic baggage maybe, but certainly not current baggage. The “R” word has current baggage.
And that’s the difference.
Yes, language changes, and we adjust - “colored” used to be the preferred word when discussing black people.
Speaking of discussing African Americans, do you think the NAACP should change its name?
As a cis white male, I have absolutely zero say in that.
I will say that there are previous clients of mine who still have the official medical diagnosis of “MR”, i.e. “Mental removedation”. That is no longer the preferred medical diagnosis.
Neither of those things have much to do with people calling people the “R” word or calling black people “coloreds” or the like.
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The “r” word isn’t specific to mental shortcomings. That’s slang and is shortened from the actual mental-specific terms. It is used a lot for its proper meaning in many fields, one of which is obviously medicine.
Just like any sound that comes from a mouth, it’s not the letters, it’s the intent. If we start erasing words because people lack any knowledge of them, we’d need to readdress the entire language. In this case, people use a short-form of it (the word only) to incorrectly disparage a person with a condition they do not have. Such as idiot, moron, spastic, etc. which all have the same historical weight and use as removed, so are no different. The only difference is a lack of knowledge and defaulting to being offended, which is exactly what the person saying it as slang intended.
That intent could be with any word.
My dear friend, a lovely, kind and caring father, has a daughter born with some challenges. She’s profoundly autistic, as I recall. Her path and potential are not the same as ours.
My friend talks with his doc often, as required, as in his area the care for his daughter is strong and consistent.
The doctor said, and says, that my friend’s wonderful little girl is removed in her intellectual development. That’s the word he uses. That’s the word my dear friend uses when he talks about his universe when she is sitting in his lap. There’s no malice there, and he says it as matter-of-factly as one would say “she has brown hair”.
My dear friend, who is a great guy in every respect - I’m a little jealous - heard this word from his doctor, and uses this word when relevant am And referring to his little girl whom he obviously loves with all his heart.
I’m not a great guy. I’m not a doctor. I’m not a social justice warrior. I am not going to invite wrath by volunteering such a word, as English is a language steered by vapid ticktock fame-removed and that word has been co-opted. It’s so fetch to reduce clarity in speech, so like, share and subscribe. But I’m not in a position or need to ‘correct’ what a doctor told a kind and caring person is the correct word to describe his beautiful child.
You be you.
If by “removed” you mean the R word, yes. Saying that someone’s cognitive development has been removed is no different than saying that by throwing an anchor out into the ocean, a ship’s speed is removed.
Context is important.
Those usages are completely different than the epithet of the R word when used to mean “stupid”. It is being used pejoritively.
If you use valid uses of the word to defend pejoritive uses, then that is your choice to do so. In my book, it reflects poorly on you.
And that’s the fucking point.
By referring to Nazis with that word you associate people who have no choice but to have their development medically described with that word to Nazis. That’s who you might hurt, harmless folk who don’t deserve to be associated with Nazis because you can’t find more creative ways to insult a bunch of absolute scumbags.
Would you please consider removing the “S” word from your vocabulary when it comes to describing nazis? It is hurtful to scum, as you can see here.
don’t hurt me
or give me up ;-)
Damn Connect almost spoiled my first RR.
lol - always ALWAYS hover over links… :)
I don’t mind when it happens… but I like the song :)
I don’t know why you feel the need to cause unnecessary pain to those with disabilities, but that’s your choice to do so.