• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 hours ago

    AI didn’t solve it. Mathematicians working for OpenAI who signed NDA agreements took these other mathematicians idea and developed into a more complete prove to market the company share value.

    These OpenAI mathematicians might or might not used a LLM to more or less extension to develop this prove. There is no evidence on how helpful was the LLM to the whole process.

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    8 hours ago

    Sorry didn’t read the article but they did a 20M marketing campaign involving maths a couple of weeks ago and now this 15M euros one… Where are they getting the money for this?

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      The goal, fully articulated or not, is to make it so easy to bypass the journey and the education that people loose the ability to do that part. Kill the need for educated and skilled people so everyone switches to AI and can’t switch back because the people that can do the work no longer exist. Always remember too that these tech guys look at the worst parts of sci-fi, fail to understand the moral of the story, and unironically think it’s the best goal.

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    The LLM didn’t ‘solve’ anything, it regurgitated a guess.

    Stop attributing comprehension and agency to something which is intrinsically incapable of possessing it.

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      Producing a correct answer doesn’t imply comprehension, using the word “solve” doesn’t imply comprehension. Computers have been “solving” math problems for decades.

      There is no attribution of comprehension implied in that phrase.

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        Yeah there wasn’t a pre written or rewritten guess, it’s combining other ideas (processes) to get to a desired point. It’s novel, but it’s not conscious and derived from creativity on its own. And that’s fine. It’s a tool. It’s the most complex computational tool developed outside of quantum computing, and that’s pretty neat. It might also turn out to be really useful. The problem is the tech bros won’t use it long term for good, because good isn’t as profitable as using it for war, for mass surveillance, for oppression.

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      14 hours ago

      Search bots that have ingested speech patterns. Psycholinguistics is traceable down to codons, sure, but the meaning and nuance is lost. Lewis Carroll is probably LLM kryptonite, for example.

      AI is a PR pick for a name. A name to lure in investors. It attributes so much more to the bots and invokes curiosity in everyone around it. Versus language bot or some other not so sexy name.

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      Stop attributing comprehension and agency

      That’s not what this is doing. At all. It’s saying it produced a solution.


      Edit: Y’all, mathematicians literally use deterministic algorithms called SAT solvers that solve the Boolean satisfiability problem. Saying an algorithm “solved” a math problem is not ascribing it comprehension or agency.

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        15 hours ago

        Some more context on sat and first order solvers in math: the first open math problem solved autonomously by a computer was in 1997, well before the advent of generative ai.

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        It’s the age of AI, words don’t mean anything anymore. They only point to other words. The word “solve” may have a “definition” but that’s irrelevant compared to how the word makes me feel.

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          That’s literally always been true. Humans are emotional speakers and use language that feels right more than we use language that factually accurate.

          The spicies have been trying to tell you this for decades.

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          Using non anthropomorphic language for AI just makes discussing it more obtuse and complex for no reason.

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      Also answers are much much much less interesting than the steps to the solution and reasoning, which can be applied to future problems

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    I’m still convinced this started out as a yacht race. And now it’s rolling downhill with a fuckton of force such that no one is stepping in the way.

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    Yes, that’s the way mathematics works. Progress happens incrementally from different contributors.

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      7 hours ago

      However the mathematicians don’t usually go searching through colleagues private documents for sparks of inspiration, work through the night then claim the success as their own, denying contributions of others.

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        My apologies, it appears this stealing laurels is now a mass phenomenon by the slop fuckers. I was thinking of this incident: https://dnyuz.com/2026/09/10/an-n-y-u-mathematician-clashed-with-openai-over-a-1-million-proof/

        The snag was that his collaborator is Levent Alpöge, a mathematician who works at Anthropic.

        Dr. Buckmaster said since he and Dr. Alpöge had used both OpenAI and Anthropic tools, […]

        I wouldn’t be surprised however, if the scientists mentioned in the OP also used slop tools to get into this situation. And if they did not, their work can’t have been used - unless a peer shared it with the slop fuckers.

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          At this point, hiding from OpenAI and Anthropic is almost as hard as hiding from Facebook and Google. It doesn’t matter if you personally Just Say No, when you have no way to control what everyone else in your circles will with your information.

          For example, when you exchange phone numbers with someone, you don’t know what apps on their phone have “contacts” access. Every fucking social media app they use now knows your name, phone number, and at least part of your social graph.

          With AI, let’s say you send someone an email. You have no idea what their email client will do with that. Microsoft won’t fucking quit with AI integration. And even if they’re using decent software that doesn’t automatically funnel everything into AI, otherwise-sane people paste fucking everything into ChatGPT themselves. You cannot realistically protect yourself if you collaborate with anyone.

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            You are sadly correct. FB should have been smashed into bits 15 years ago for allowing their users to agree to share their address books.

            All billionaires are a plague to this planet.

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              What happened to “all multimillionaires are a plague to this planet”? Fucking inflation, ruined it all…